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Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can even have groupon.com/australia/... For example, when you go to www.apple.com.au it redirects you to www.apple.com/au and no one thinks anything of it. So this is either silly, or it is about more than the domain name, and more about the trademark in use locally.

Are you allowed to do this if you don't own the trademark on groupon in australia? I don't know!

No, you wouldn't be able to operate your business under the name Groupon in Australia.

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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There's a comment which suggested that this happened in "England" (the UK, grrr) but the roles were reversed and Groupon did this to a local competitor. Does anyone know anything about this?

Quote: "and this was after you did the same thing to some poor guy in england."

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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post #23

There's a comment which suggested that this happened in "England" (the UK, grrr) but the roles were reversed and Groupon did this to a local competitor. Does anyone know anything about this? Quote: "and this was after you did the same thing to some poor guy in england."

I know of someone who started up in this space in London in about '07. I talked to him the other day asking what happened and he said "oh, Groupon just overtook the market".

He didn't hold anything against them for it, just said they had better vision and iterated faster.

(that's probably not the story you were thinking of, but your comment happened to remind me of our conversation)

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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post #23

There's a comment which suggested that this happened in "England" (the UK, grrr) but the roles were reversed and Groupon did this to a local competitor. Does anyone know anything about this? Quote: "and this was after you did the same thing to some poor guy in england."

He's probably referring at the technique they've used to get the groupon.com domain from a guy living up in UK. This guy bought groupon.com with the intention of building a group coupon business. While he was sitting on it, the real groupon guys built the real thing and registered the trademark in US (which, somehow, extends to the UK) and told the poor english guy to either take 250k for the domain or prepare to be sued. He accepted the money and everyone was happy.

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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post #20
post #10

Domain squatters may not be OK, but identical business models are just another legitimate challenge (business models can't be patented). They need boots on the ground and it may not be possible for Groupon to physically get there before the competition. Either way, it's good for the end user, who will go from zero to several choices practically over night. It also prevents Groupon from becoming a monopoly.

There are multiple Groupon "clones" on the ground in Australia, a few doing some fairly big numbers. Groupon have acquired one of the biggest (if my sources are correct) in JumpOnIt.com.au. Scoopons behaviour is pretty low IMHO. Registering not only the domain name groupon.com.au but also the company name and the trademark?

No. It was LivingSocial who invested $5 million on JumpOnIt, which is one of the larger group buy site. LivingSocial themselves took funding from Amazon.

Scoopon (and the guys behind Scoopon and CatchOfTheDays.com.au) also registered other domain names such as Woot.com.au and DealExtreme.com.au. So I think it's a pretty trivial squatting case.

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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post #7

What's wrong with using au.groupon.com?

It's much more than just the domain name in this case, but also trademark and registered business name. Basically Groupon might not be able to operate as "Groupon" in Australia, regardless whichever domain name it uses.

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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Note to self: If I ever start a company that secures significant VC funding, immediately buy domains related to my company in all major markets and begin securing trademarks as well.

It's not always as simple as registering a domain name on GoDaddy or a local registrar though. To register a .com.au domain name, you're required to have an Australian Business Number (i.e. incorporate locally). It's easy to get one, but how many other international domain names do you want to register that require extra work?

Some registrars specialize in this, SafeNames for example.

Re: Why Groupon is not in Australia (domain squatter)

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