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Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by mentalpiracy »

inanutshellus wrote: post #32
pjc50 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does rather show how important it is to have good personal heuristics for "this is a real person's account speaking authentically", which is very difficult to verify for strangers.

Precisely. We're even psychologically inclined to agree with RO because "it" is "fighting the good fight" and "fighting The Man", etc. Whether she's legitimately exactly who she says she is or "it" is just a next-level PR AI whose sole purpose is harming Amazon, we have little way of knowing, especially outside this specific example.

"legitimately exactly who she says she is" as if the timeline of her twitter account didn't lend to her identity. Especially in contrast to the Amazon FC accounts which are brand new and follow 0 other twitter users.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by jmkni »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #26
treerock wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tried that. Top message: Diana Wilde @rulesObeyer 16h16 hours ago Replying to @AmazonFCRafael are you a robot, did they make a bunch of ai to lie for them instead of helping real workers So still diving into the middle of a conversation.

You might be hitting a twitter bug or having an issue with their slightly weird phased loading, the top message I get is from 'Amazon News': > Come take a free tour at an Amazon fulfillment center and see what our warehouses are really like. Check out the locations and reserve your spot online. #AmazonFCTours Then Diane replies to that and the back-and-forth with Amazon employees begins.

I got the same as treerock, the news article posted elsewhere in this thread is useful for context

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by leftyted »

I doubt these are bots.

One of them says:

> I don't get compensated per tweet. I get paid $15/hr whether I am answering tweets or out on the floor stowing. I do this 2 days a week and 2 days a week I stow.

While I think it's weird that Amazon is doing this, I also doubt that the warehouse jobs are bad jobs. I've done manual labor for less than $15/hr and I'd much rather have a job like that than, say, a job in a restaurant.

I also think it's ironic that the instigator here claims to care about "the working class":

> really like? cause your workers are liars? you’re not going to convince the working class that everything is fine by telling us where to avert our eyes, we already know what it’s really like. why don’t you really treat your workers better, you can afford it

She's talking to working class people and when they disagree with her, she accuses them of literally not being human.

If people want to advocate for the working class, they need to step outside of the simplistic fiction that "evil corporations are ruining people's lives by employing them and not treating them well". The truth is much more complicated and jobs don't grow on trees.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by enkiv2 »

pjc50 wrote: post #35
inanutshellus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely. We're even psychologically inclined to agree with RO because "it" is "fighting the good fight" and "fighting The Man", etc. Whether she's legitimately exactly who she says she is or "it" is just a next-level PR AI whose sole purpose is harming Amazon, we have little way of knowing, especially outside this specific example.

On the other hand, this obfuscatory conversation and the allegation that random individual accounts are paid anti-corporate is one that adds to the weight for "inanutshellus may be an Amazon shill account, or at least employee"

Yeah, if this makes front page the odds are nearly 100% that paid amazon shills will fill the comments -- and odds are greater than 50% that it already has been.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by roddux »

blhack wrote: post #15

Can somebody explain how to parse the page linked here? This seems like deeplinking Intl the middle of a conversation. Side note: it feels like Twitter specifically has done immeasurable damage to the discourse. Why does the communication have to be presented so confusingly? To an outsider it seems like it’s to create maximum outrage/confusion/dopamine response. That’s much scarier to me than a customer service team.

Broken for me, too. Twitter's UI is awful. Altering the URL to 'm.twitter.com' worked for me, as I can now see the topmost comment by 'Amazon News'

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by chewbacha »

inanutshellus wrote: post #8

... imagine this the other way. Imagine that "@rulesObeyer" is the one with the agenda. Imagine RO is paid by a competitor to spread misinformation and "stir the pot", then re-read the thread. Suddenly RO seems incapable of reason or adapting in the face of clear evidence against its assertions. It makes for a fun read. (Similarly, "anyone condemning this comment or defending @rulesObeyer must just be @rulesObeyer in…

I, for one, welcome our lizard overlords.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by dceddia »

It’s like one person was given control over multiple accounts, but forgot that every time they replied they’d appear to be a different person. It’s funny because every now and then they appear to remember, like the person halfway down saying “Hey it’s me again”.
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