Watch Out Google, YouTubers Are Unionizing
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Watch Out Google, YouTubers Are Unionizing
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#2If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means.
If I were google, I would also get control of their users (they would now be the companys) and youtubers will no longer be able move to any other platform while working for Google.
You can't expect the freedom of running your own business with none of the restrictions of a job.
I never understood the need to take away the ability for someone to truly run their own business and have freedoms and restrict it down to a corporate job, by law.
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#3If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means. If I were google, I would also get control of their users (they would now be the companys) and youtubers will no longer be able move to any other platform while working for Google. You can't expect the freedom of running your own…
> If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means.
Youtube already does this to some degree in the form of changing their monetization requirements over time.
I'm all for giving more collective bargaining power to the creators. Youtube provides the infrastructure to connect creators to users, but I think over time we've seen them begin to take advantage of this in a way that is not fair to individual creators.
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#4If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means. If I were google, I would also get control of their users (they would now be the companys) and youtubers will no longer be able move to any other platform while working for Google. You can't expect the freedom of running your own…
>I never understood the need to take away the ability for someone to truly run their own business and have freedoms and restrict it down to a corporate job, by law.
They obviously feel that it balances in their favor, in the sense that as of right now they are unable to "truly run their own business" while they are at the whims of monetization and censorship policies that seemingly change on a dime, with no recourse. On top of the copyright issues plaguing creators - they must think that unionizing will give them bargaining power to start to rectify these issues.
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#5If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means. If I were google, I would also get control of their users (they would now be the companys) and youtubers will no longer be able move to any other platform while working for Google. You can't expect the freedom of running your own…
> I never understood the need to take away the ability for someone to truly run their own business and have freedoms and restrict it down to a corporate job, by law. They obviously feel that it balances in their favor, in the sense that as of right now they are unable to "truly run their own business" while they are at the whims of monetization and censorship policies that seemingly change on a dime, with no recourse…
The important question, which according to the article the union won't disclose, is how many people are included in "they". Is this something that Youtubers in general are rallying behind, or is IG Metall just trying to bully Youtube and advance its own interests?
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#6If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means. If I were google, I would also get control of their users (they would now be the companys) and youtubers will no longer be able move to any other platform while working for Google. You can't expect the freedom of running your own…
I would rather liken this to running a soap making company, but the governmental society where you do your soap making keeps changing what ingredients are legal on an arbitrary basis, causing you to need to recreate your product constantly, much to the chagrin of your customers. It makes much more sense for you and your fellow bath products producers to bind together and have a sit down with the government on everyone's behalf.
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#7If that's the case, 99% will be booted off the platform and they will have to meet certain numbers of visitors and engagement every month, or lose their job..which is what unionizing means. If I were google, I would also get control of their users (they would now be the companys) and youtubers will no longer be able move to any other platform while working for Google. You can't expect the freedom of running your own…
your statements are somewhat reductive. collective action is possible outside of employment.
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#8The thing that makes unions work is the ability to go on strike (it's easy to shutdown a shipyard or a coal mine). I don't know how you coordinate a bunch of preening narcissists, but if film and tv actors can do it, maybe youtube stars can too.
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#9What they should do is collectively take their content somewhere else.
As an aside, I'm seeing the same pattern at Amazon. People thought they were opening a business on amazon selling retail. Then amazon started selling the profitable products themselves, storing the products themselves, ... basically doing more and more of the work and taking more control and taking money from the people who helped them become powerful. Businesses there are now devolving into repackaging jobs.
Now Youtube is doing the same. They used focus on being a search and distribution mechanism. Now they produce content, allow sponsorships, have more ads per minute of viewing then television, ... jobs there are again, repackaging jobs. Repackage scenes from movies, previews, upload documentaries, sports clips...
They both grew through the expansion of the long tail. The reality is: where are people in the long tail going to go to sell their repackaged stuff?
Nowhere. There's no other amazon. Ebay? The flea market of the internet? That's where people who wanted to sell to wal-mart go.
The only place for them to go would be to create their own online store, or their own website where people can watch their movies. Then you have to be found through...
... that's right, Google. Nope. That won't work either, because only AdWords sponsored content appears in Google searches anymore. Google wants you adding data snippets to google.com so people won't even visit your website.
The internet has turned to garbage. You're better off going to the library like the old days.
The internet has been ruined by the mainstream and the money grubbers.
It's just gross. So sad.
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#10Good. It's about time.