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Re: The We Company S-1

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It's not a tech company, it's a property company with the valuation of a tech company.

Is it? I was under the impression it does not own land for the most part.

It's a mix. Some locations they own, some they lease--including some that the CEO owns and they lease from him, which is an interesting arrangement.

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post #77

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Is this how these things are usually calculated? Does a watch manufacturer say that there are approximately 255 million left arms which we can reach by post, and since our watches sell for $1000 that's a $255B opportunity?

> Is this how these things are usually calculated? Yes, it’s a run-of-the-mill back-of-the-envelope TAM [1] estimate. The point of this number isn’t to value the company. It’s to identify obvious limits to scaling. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_addressable_market

> It’s to identify obvious limits to scaling.

In my experience, it's more likely in order to show an enormous number as a way of telling investors, the executives you need to approve your product/project, etc. that your thing has just incredible potential.

It has some value. If the TAM isn't very big and you'd have to achieve 50% of it to ever turn a profit, that may be a red flag. But TAMs that lead to business projections like: "We only need to put our watch on 10% of the left arms in the world to make a huge pile of cash!" are pretty bogus.

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post #20

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Profitability and the value of the equity aren't necessarily related, though. Amazon was unprofitable for many years, but its stock still increased in value.

Thats because Amazon was only unprofitable due to Capex and R&D. Their operating margin is fantastic, it was this promise that enticed investors! WeWork on the other hand is very ugly.

Note that capex is capitalized and amortized over time (it doesn’t affect profitability when the investment is made).

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According to the prospectus, they lose so much money because they are building out new locations. Their break even point takes about a year for an individual location. So theoretically, they have a path to profitability. I just wonder where they get the cash in the meantime. >$1B/year burn rate, ouch.

> I just wonder where they get the cash in the meantime. >$1B/year burn rate

They're raising up to $6B in a debt offering.

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post #83

The mechanics of deferred rent are fascinating here. They have 2.8 billion of deferred rent on their balance sheet. See note 11 and 17

What exactly is deferred rent and what does it mean for We Company?

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My favorite part of new tech company filings is looking at the risk section and finding something to the effect of: "We are not profitable, and may never be." > We have a history of losses and, especially if we continue to grow at an accelerated rate, we may be unable to achieve profitability at a company level (as determined in accordance with GAAP) for the foreseeable future. I understand the reasoning behind havin…

It's not a tech company, it's a property company with the valuation of a tech company.

They're trying to sell it as tech

> We have approximately 1,000 engineers, product designers and machine learning scientists that are dedicated to building, integrating and automating the complex systems we use to operate our business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? I was under the impression it does not own land for the most part.

It's a mix. Some locations they own, some they lease--including some that the CEO owns and they lease from him, which is an interesting arrangement.

A school I attended once had a similar arrangement with one of its board members. I also vaguely recall that board member defrauding the school of several million dollars and being federally charged...

Re: The We Company S-1

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The mechanics of deferred rent are fascinating here. They have 2.8 billion of deferred rent on their balance sheet. See note 11 and 17

It’s worth remembering that they have massive tenants in the form of big corporations taking entire floors to set up satellite locations.
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