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Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by dylan604 »

emptyfile wrote: post #56
jdpigeon wrote: post #18

I thought I was pretty hip to psytrance, but I guess not because I don't recognize any of these artists. How can there be a whole psytrance guide without mentioning 1200 micrograms, Infected Mushroom, or Shpongle?

Well yes, if you don't know any of the artists on there then you don't listen to psytrance obviously. This is a modern guide to current genres and almost all tracks on it are released after 2010 (yes even the Goa tracks are recent, its not dead). This is not a history of psytrance guide, if it was it would be huge. BTW Sphongle definitely isn't psytrance, and Infected Mushroom isn't well regarded in the underground.

The first couple of IM album were well regarded, that's why the backlash was so pronounced starting with BP Empire. By the time they started singing, I think the underground threw up their hands and walked away.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by stinos »

ssijak wrote: post #23

I have just returned from one psytrance festival. I like to go there, not mainly for the music (which I like mostly), but for the atmosphere. Meeting all kind of different people and getting out from the usual "reality" and norms and rat race and jumping into crazines, relaxing the norms and trying new things. It is so refreshing, I always return home more happy and enthusiastic about life. And yes, people eat like t…

> not mainly for the music (which I like mostly), but for the atmosphere

He for me it's actually the other way around. Well, sort of: I really go for the music or more specifically for dancing hours in row. It does get me in a trance and that is the main aspect which makes me return home more happy and enthusiastic as you call it (too bad that effect doesn't last long but that's something else). But this wouldn't be possible without the atmosphere: I can only dance like a maniac because it feels ok there, exactly because no one cares and/or does what I do. The feeling of unity is very strong at goa parties, possibly the strongest of all genres I've been to. Even if I barely talked to anyone for a whole night, I exchanged smiles with many strangers and felt like we all wanted the same thing. It's a pity this only exists for more underground parties; other genres have this as well (punk and all subgenres, acidcore and the likes, some techno but definitely not all/everywhere). Society would be a better place if people would behave like this always and everywhere including daily life. So it's a pity not everyone experiences this.

Note I wouldn't be too fast blaming alcohol for problems at other parties i.e. I'm not convinced there's a causal relationship. There's quite a lot of drinking at trance/... parties as well, and I yet have to see parties where apart from alcohol no other drugs get used. I think it's more of a correlation between the type of people and their general mindset and the use of alcohol and the abberant behavior and those people not going to trance parties.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by tannhaeuser »

NKosmatos wrote: post #9

Very nice guide, especially for all of us in our mid forties that liked and listened (still listening?) to all these styles when they were actually being created!!! Recently there was a HN post about a similar site http://everynoise.com/ but for all music genres

Mid forties? I used to go to acid house clubs in 1988/9 (I think) and to Goa parties around 1992-4. I was surprised it's still a thing in 2019 apparently when I noticed a poster for an event in rural north/east Germany very similar to the flyers I knew from the early/mid '90s.

Though I have to agree with what others said: the taxonomy doesn't look representative of what was actually played, at all. For example, there was a label in my home town (Spirit Zone, with upbeat/dirty and sometimes dark Goa sound) not being mentioned, nor is the 1990's Dub scene, though another genre is described as originating from Hamburg I've never heard of. Also, I think the Berlin scene really ought to be mentioned, not only the legendary 90s tresor and e-werk clubs, but also the mid-90s ambient and drum+bass scene which had strong influence on what today is called psytrance I guess. Some of the better-known artists (live musicians more than DJs) are still in business as techno grandaddies eg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-dRr2T6us .

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by codeulike »

emptyfile wrote: post #41
codeulike wrote: post #25

Well I for one think Electronic Music has too many sub-genres. Like if you change the timing of the highhat or the type of synth you're using it catapults you into a different genre. Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented?

>Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented? So that when I look at a party in my area I can know if its a party where artists will be playing progressive psytrance or forest psytrance. Because they're different. Is this so hard to understand for you?

But why does the music at the party have to be so specific?

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by bgeeek »

weavie wrote: post #11

Wow. I'm old enough to remember when it was just goa trance. And then towards the end of the 90's the kicks became more pronounced and the melodies were dropped in favour of more psychedelic soundscapes. From that it seemed the genre split into daytime trance that was brighter and more uplifting and nighttime that was darker and more psychedelic. As a dj, people would grumble at you if you played daytime trance at ni…

Oaky's Goa Mix (the original version, not the one used with all of the cleared material) was pretty much legendary stuff in the UK in the '90s and I do think he helped make trance fairly mainstream. The knock on effect was that when it went mainstream it got kind-of boring. Gatecrasher was also popular in the UK at the tail end of the '90s. I can remember psytrance breaking through, but it just didn't sound amazing after Goa, etc. Not sure if you remember the harsh joke about trance - there was one original trance record and everything else afterwards was just a rehash of it :) I thought the track in question was "Age of Love". I agree with it, but Donna Summer's I Feel Love predates it by a few decades and that is a pretty trance-y record.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by emptyfile »

abcc8 wrote: post #64

Where would Sphongle fit in on that list? I like Sphongle but do not know much about the genre.

Nowhere, since it's not psytrance (no trance beat for one thing).

It's considered psybient(psychedelic ambient) or rather they invented that genre.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by dylan604 »

empath75 wrote: post #55
jdpigeon wrote: post #18

I thought I was pretty hip to psytrance, but I guess not because I don't recognize any of these artists. How can there be a whole psytrance guide without mentioning 1200 micrograms, Infected Mushroom, or Shpongle?

Because those acts are 20 years old at this point, grandpa. (I know how you feel tho)

It's in the same vein as trying to talk to younger kids about movies that were released before they were born. So much content is coming at them that they just haven't watched (or heard music) much older stuff. It's not that they are against it, they just need to be introduced to it.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by emptyfile »

Fnoord wrote: post #21
foobar_ wrote: post #12

Where is psydub ?

I suppose there is some overlap with psyambient and psychill. There was a time when not every genre had psy before it. If you like that genre, I can recommend Ott's Hallucinogen In Dub remixes and his album Skylon [1]. I also like some specific tracks of Easily Embarrased and Koan but not sure which genre it falls under. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott_(record_producer)

I don't agree really, psydub is quite distinct. Though it is a rather small genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZlG2y74CQE

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by bgeeek »

Fnoord wrote: post #16
weavie wrote: post #11

Wow. I'm old enough to remember when it was just goa trance. And then towards the end of the 90's the kicks became more pronounced and the melodies were dropped in favour of more psychedelic soundscapes. From that it seemed the genre split into daytime trance that was brighter and more uplifting and nighttime that was darker and more psychedelic. As a dj, people would grumble at you if you played daytime trance at ni…

I find it painful to see my favourite all-time genre of music, goatrance, getting more and more obscure and snowed under the abundance of time and psytrance. I can relate to oldschool house, trance, and techno lovers alike. Consider the introduction in this article to goatrance, at the very bottom of the website after all kind of psytrance subgenres. Roland TB-303? Not mentioned. The archetype synthesizer of acid and…

Another Oaky fan here, he was great in the early '90s. Enjoyed Fluro, and some of his Global Underground mixes. Wish I still had a good copy of the original Goa Mix - I know there are variants of it on YouTube and Spotify.
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