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Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by wickedsight »

weavie wrote: post #11

Wow. I'm old enough to remember when it was just goa trance. And then towards the end of the 90's the kicks became more pronounced and the melodies were dropped in favour of more psychedelic soundscapes. From that it seemed the genre split into daytime trance that was brighter and more uplifting and nighttime that was darker and more psychedelic. As a dj, people would grumble at you if you played daytime trance at ni…

I have a youtube channel, where in 12 years ago, I uploaded some Astral Projection songs, racking up over 300k views in total. This is the only reason my channel has 100+ followers.

I considered deleting the videos, because of clear copyright violation, but I feel it's a bit of history that might get lost. Also, because of copyright claim, the producers are still getting ad revenue.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by pimmen »

noir_lord wrote: post #29
codeulike wrote: post #25

Well I for one think Electronic Music has too many sub-genres. Like if you change the timing of the highhat or the type of synth you're using it catapults you into a different genre. Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented?

Metal is the same, often it's the true(TM) fans who come up with the micro-genres as a way to beat people over the head for not knowing that "foo" is "bar". It's the pretentious of wine culture applied to music basically.

This is basically spot on. But, these micro genres can be useful for the "true" fans too, if they know a fellow fan and feel like they want something within a genre, but with some specific features (like just a tad slower tempo, more vocals or something) they can just say "heard anything good from " instead of "heard anything good from , but with ".

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Post by emptyfile »

ssijak wrote: post #23

I have just returned from one psytrance festival. I like to go there, not mainly for the music (which I like mostly), but for the atmosphere. Meeting all kind of different people and getting out from the usual "reality" and norms and rat race and jumping into crazines, relaxing the norms and trying new things. It is so refreshing, I always return home more happy and enthusiastic about life. And yes, people eat like t…

Very similar experience. TBH after a few festivals it has gotten stale to me and I haven't been in a few years, but the experience of the first one which got me into the rave scene in general is one of my most treasured memories.

The people are amazing and friendly, even tough their beliefs are mostly batshit insane. The vibe is so much better than any other festivals (and no trash! clean nature!).

Music wise I've always preferred other psychedelic genres to actual psytrance, but there always interesting stuff at festivals.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by gastlee_za »

weavie wrote: post #60
gastlee_za wrote: post #53

South Africa's psytrance scene is going strong and is quite diverse across a few of the psy sub genres. Maybe a little under-represented in the night full-on category... For more information on what the DJs and producers here are doing, check out the Psymedia Soundcloud page or their website. https://soundcloud.com/psymedia https://psymedia.co.za/

If you bump into Tersius on your travels, tell him he's awesome! ;-)

He DJs at the Our Minds festival?

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Post by karmickoala »

noir_lord wrote: post #29
codeulike wrote: post #25

Well I for one think Electronic Music has too many sub-genres. Like if you change the timing of the highhat or the type of synth you're using it catapults you into a different genre. Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented?

Metal is the same, often it's the true(TM) fans who come up with the micro-genres as a way to beat people over the head for not knowing that "foo" is "bar". It's the pretentious of wine culture applied to music basically.

I used to follow this in rock. Despite being misused like the way you mentioned, it also serves the purpose to help you find new artists based on the genre and sub-genre. If you like a specific thing about a track and you'd want to listen more like that, the taxonomy helps you find it and how they relate to other (sub-)genres. However, I do concede that there is a lot of pretentiousness.

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Post by TorKlingberg »

NKosmatos wrote: post #9

Very nice guide, especially for all of us in our mid forties that liked and listened (still listening?) to all these styles when they were actually being created!!! Recently there was a HN post about a similar site http://everynoise.com/ but for all music genres

Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music is also a classic: http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

It covers up to the '00s, so earlier than the OP. Fittingly, it's all in Flash.

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Post by dylan604 »

I have memories of an interview with an artist that I believe was ManMadeMan. They discussed how they preferred the BPM to be around 135-138. At that BPM with a running 16th note baseline, they said it was very easy for people's brainwaves to sync up with the music as it was very close in frequency to one of the brain waves. I can't remember where I saw it. It might have been one of the early documentaries about one of the big festivals.

Did anyone else see that video? I would love to know if there's any validity to it other than personal experience. I know that when the BPMs started creeping up, a lot of that dance floor vibe seemed to goaway (eh?)

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Post by keymon-o »

noir_lord wrote: post #29
codeulike wrote: post #25

Well I for one think Electronic Music has too many sub-genres. Like if you change the timing of the highhat or the type of synth you're using it catapults you into a different genre. Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented?

Metal is the same, often it's the true(TM) fans who come up with the micro-genres as a way to beat people over the head for not knowing that "foo" is "bar". It's the pretentious of wine culture applied to music basically.

People enjoy certain patterns in some genre and then they explore and develop it further. When that pattern becomes more known it gets a name for easier referencing.

All music eventually starts to sound boring and micro genre is how fans find what they like about genre and continue enjoy it.

I don't understand craft beer fad and obsession, but I know beer has many tastes and many interesting stuff can come out. Why would I call someone pretentious just because they develop something I don't care about.

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Post by codeulike »

dintech wrote: post #40
codeulike wrote: post #25

Well I for one think Electronic Music has too many sub-genres. Like if you change the timing of the highhat or the type of synth you're using it catapults you into a different genre. Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented?

There are many kinds of lots of things. If the nuances don't interest you, that's ok. Fortunately nobody made you the authority on the subject.

I'm trying to understand why. For example this is a pretty good explanation https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20694521

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Post by [deleted] »

emptyfile wrote: post #56
jdpigeon wrote: post #18

I thought I was pretty hip to psytrance, but I guess not because I don't recognize any of these artists. How can there be a whole psytrance guide without mentioning 1200 micrograms, Infected Mushroom, or Shpongle?

Well yes, if you don't know any of the artists on there then you don't listen to psytrance obviously. This is a modern guide to current genres and almost all tracks on it are released after 2010 (yes even the Goa tracks are recent, its not dead). This is not a history of psytrance guide, if it was it would be huge. BTW Sphongle definitely isn't psytrance, and Infected Mushroom isn't well regarded in the underground.

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