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FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by andrewnicolalde »

jhabdas wrote: post #158
dawnerd wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats a bit unfair though. Do you think most people will know if their laptop if affected? This is the first I've heard of it and honestly can't remember what year my MBP is.

Apple sent me an email directly stating my Mac was affected. My early 2017 MPB has run hot enough to burn through 2 $80 charging cables already. I've since switched operating systems to Linux and have no intention of getting serviced as there are no authorized service centers in my area unless I get on a plane. Would I trust anyone else touching my Mac anyway? The answer is no and I plan to buy a Huawei replacement l…

Isn’t there some way you can send it to them? Worst that can happen is they slightly increase the computer’s resale value.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by izacus »

dawnerd wrote: post #145
hdfbdtbcdg wrote: post #141

A lot of people are commenting how hard this will be to enforce/easy to avoid. That's not the right way to look at it. If someone now takes one of these laptops onto a flight and it burns mid-flight that person is now criminally liable. At the very least they will have to pay for the emergency landing etc..

Thats a bit unfair though. Do you think most people will know if their laptop if affected? This is the first I've heard of it and honestly can't remember what year my MBP is.

> Thats a bit unfair though. Do you think most people will know if their laptop if affected? This is the first I've heard of it and honestly can't remember what year my MBP is.

Laptop will explode and burn without caring if their owner knows about it, so I don't know what "fairness" has to do with it here. It's not unreasonable to have a minimum awareness about your own possessions, we don't have to slip into full blown idiocracy.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by jhabdas »

WildGreenLeave wrote: post #143
jdavis703 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually took an 10 inch screwdriver on to a flight accidently. When I was unpacking at the hotel I was like "how the F did this get past the security check?" Another time I was running late for my flight and forgot to empty my 16oz water bottle. After my bag went through the scanner I realized my mistake and told the TSA agent about it. He uncapped the bottle, swirrled the water around, sniffed it, and then handed…

Amsterdam Airport (Schiphol) allows you to bring a full waterbottle (openend and unopenend) through security. Also you don't have to unpack your bag anymore. Just take it of your back and it will go right through the machine. I am not sure what changed because I haven't seen this before. Even modern airports like Changi (Singapore) required me to empty my bottle. If anyone knows what changed, always interesting to re…

There's nothing modern about Changi's use of "angel wings" to physically detain passengers moving through customs while they collect biometrics.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by krustyburger »

js2 wrote: post #52

Multiple folks in this thread have asked how the TSA is going to deal with this. The answer is: it won't. These laptops were banned as a "dangerous good" by the FAA. This is separate from the TSA's list of items banned as a security threat. > The Transportation Security Administration also has rules on "prohibited items" that pose a security threat. Though they sometimes overlap, the TSA security rules are separate f…

Given that the TSA has something like a 5% success rate (according to their own internal measures) at identifying things they’re actively screening, I think the best bet in any event would have been to just try to take the laptop through.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

What are that kind of decisions based on? This is a repeat of the Samsung Note (?) fiasco, which, as someone else correctly stated, is just going to cause manufacturers not to disclose defects.

What is the actual criterion they used to determine that the device is dangerous? Did they estimate the likelihood of the battery catching fire, or did they just rely on manufacturer information? If it's the former, where can I see the numbers (and compare them with other devices?). If it's the latter, will I be safe forever to bring cheap no-name electronics on planes?

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by doguozkan »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #165

What are that kind of decisions based on? This is a repeat of the Samsung Note (?) fiasco, which, as someone else correctly stated, is just going to cause manufacturers not to disclose defects. What is the actual criterion they used to determine that the device is dangerous? Did they estimate the likelihood of the battery catching fire, or did they just rely on manufacturer information? If it's the former, where can…

The article says there are safety instructions from 2016 which dictate goods with recalled batteries should not be taken on flights, and customers who had the batteries replaced aren't restricted by this.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by cm2187 »

js2 wrote: post #52

Multiple folks in this thread have asked how the TSA is going to deal with this. The answer is: it won't. These laptops were banned as a "dangerous good" by the FAA. This is separate from the TSA's list of items banned as a security threat. > The Transportation Security Administration also has rules on "prohibited items" that pose a security threat. Though they sometimes overlap, the TSA security rules are separate f…

To those who wonder why you can’t board with a thermometer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IrdYueB9pY4

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by chrischen »

1e-9 wrote: post #39
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can open the MBP up and show the agent your About Mac window in the setting menu. It has the serial number, but more importantly, it will tell them the year of the laptop (mine says mid 2014).

Along with the hassle of opening the laptop, powering it on, and clicking About This Mac; you would have the security issue of entering your password while surrounded by other people and cameras. None of the verification options seem very appealing.

Touchbar fingerprint reader to the rescue!

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by jhabdas »

dahart wrote: post #115
coin wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source for this?

Sure. Google “tsa” and click “what can I bring?”, it goes right to the descriptions which cite the FAA regulations. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/...

Then search Google for "how did Epstein die" and watch as its crystal ball of truth decides the future.
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