Live data from Hacker News

FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

bloomberg.com

141–150 of 254 posts

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#141
A lot of people are commenting how hard this will be to enforce/easy to avoid.

That's not the right way to look at it. If someone now takes one of these laptops onto a flight and it burns mid-flight that person is now criminally liable. At the very least they will have to pay for the emergency landing etc..

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#142

This doesn't mean that TSA will be checking serial numbers. It means that people will be scared and consider checking if they need a recall, and completing it, instead of delaying. It does mean that if you bring a laptop for which the recall applies onto a plane, you could be found at fault if it crashes. Assuming you live and they're able to read the serial number from it, anyways. I assume that comes with some sort…

I have a hard time believing that this is all just to point the finger after a plane crashes.

Sure the logistics of enforcing it are difficult, but this does have the effect of telling the public not to do it.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#143
post #9

The TSA will clearly have issues managing this. All MacBooks look the same to them. They can't currently manage basic stuff like "baby formula might need different rules than our 3oz standard for liquids." Expect pressure on Apple to make it a non-issue.

I actually took an 10 inch screwdriver on to a flight accidently. When I was unpacking at the hotel I was like "how the F did this get past the security check?" Another time I was running late for my flight and forgot to empty my 16oz water bottle. After my bag went through the scanner I realized my mistake and told the TSA agent about it. He uncapped the bottle, swirrled the water around, sniffed it, and then handed…

Amsterdam Airport (Schiphol) allows you to bring a full waterbottle (openend and unopenend) through security. Also you don't have to unpack your bag anymore. Just take it of your back and it will go right through the machine.

I am not sure what changed because I haven't seen this before. Even modern airports like Changi (Singapore) required me to empty my bottle. If anyone knows what changed, always interesting to read!

Source: flew from Schiphol 3 times in the last few months.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#144
post #130
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one actually cares. Weed is also banned on planes, TSA agents have found some of mine on my carry on a couple times, and no one bats an eye.

Doesn't that depend on what states you're leaving and entering? I can't imagine TSA agents in a state where it's not yet legalized would look the other way.

Awhile ago I heard they wouldn't enforce it between specific destinations where it's legal (even though federally it's still illegal). More recently they've decided it's best to spend their resources elsewhere and generally stop spending time on it.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#145

A lot of people are commenting how hard this will be to enforce/easy to avoid. That's not the right way to look at it. If someone now takes one of these laptops onto a flight and it burns mid-flight that person is now criminally liable. At the very least they will have to pay for the emergency landing etc..

Thats a bit unfair though. Do you think most people will know if their laptop if affected? This is the first I've heard of it and honestly can't remember what year my MBP is.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#147
post #9

The TSA will clearly have issues managing this. All MacBooks look the same to them. They can't currently manage basic stuff like "baby formula might need different rules than our 3oz standard for liquids." Expect pressure on Apple to make it a non-issue.

I actually took an 10 inch screwdriver on to a flight accidently. When I was unpacking at the hotel I was like "how the F did this get past the security check?" Another time I was running late for my flight and forgot to empty my 16oz water bottle. After my bag went through the scanner I realized my mistake and told the TSA agent about it. He uncapped the bottle, swirrled the water around, sniffed it, and then handed…

I've taken screwdrivers all the time. Guessing they really don't care. Hell, even my multitool which looks like it has a knife has been fine.

But that one time I had a bottle of diet coke... That's when they get me.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#148

A lot of people are commenting how hard this will be to enforce/easy to avoid. That's not the right way to look at it. If someone now takes one of these laptops onto a flight and it burns mid-flight that person is now criminally liable. At the very least they will have to pay for the emergency landing etc..

Thats a bit unfair though. Do you think most people will know if their laptop if affected? This is the first I've heard of it and honestly can't remember what year my MBP is.

Article says that gate agents are supposed to make an announcement before boarding, which I think I remember happening for the exploding Galaxy, too. Still plenty of people who don't know the model year of their laptop, but a little less plausible deniability.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

#150
post #87

I am wondering how long this non-removable battery fiasco is gonna last, instead of an expensive recall it would been a simple battery recall and swap that doesn't involve leaving the laptop in service for any amount of time and doable on short notice so the travelers would not be inconvenienced. On top of that, when non-removable batteries fail, they usually take down the whole device with them beyond repair, while…

Indefinitely, because most people do not consider it a "fiasco." Have you seen what the batteries look like for, say, the new 13" Macbook Pro or the 12" Macbook? They're not bricks you could just feed into a slot. They're multi-part systems that distribute the battery through the gaps in the case. Fixing them in place means they don't need extra casing support, don't need to be near a specific edge and are flexible e…

> Yes, all those issues could be addressed by making Apple laptops thicker and heavier

Dell XPS 13 is both, thinner and lighter than Macbook Air, yet its battery replacement process is rated as "very easy"[1] by ifixit. The same applies to Dell XPS 15 vs Macbook Pro.

[1] https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Dell+XPS+13+Battery+Replacement...

Post reply on HN