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FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by chapium »

1e-9 wrote: post #39
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can open the MBP up and show the agent your About Mac window in the setting menu. It has the serial number, but more importantly, it will tell them the year of the laptop (mine says mid 2014).

Along with the hassle of opening the laptop, powering it on, and clicking About This Mac; you would have the security issue of entering your password while surrounded by other people and cameras. None of the verification options seem very appealing.

Fortunately this isnt a big hassle on a mac :)

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by DangitBobby »

amaterasu wrote: post #50
mfer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Apple website has a lookup that will tell you if a seriel number is affected and has not already been fixed. They keep track of the fixed machines.

This database is inaccurate, my machine was repaired early this year prior to the recall (irritatingly at my cost as the batteries were swollen). It is still listed as requiring replacement batteries via this search...

Not to mention it won't include third party repairs

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by NikkiA »

dap wrote: post #59

> While there have been repeated incidents of phones, laptops and other devices overheating and catching fire in passenger compartments of planes, it hasn’t ever caused a fire to spread. The flames can be extinguished with water and flight attendants are trained how to address it. I was under the impression that water was the wrong thing to put on a Li-Ion battery fire. Is that right?

The FAA has a video on the subject:

https://youtu.be/vS6KA_Si-m8?t=185

I suspect the rationale is that any potential for exposing new parts of the battery chemistry to water are dwarfed by the effectiveness of stopping the thermal runaway, and battery chemistry that's already reacted can't react again.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by NikkiA »

saagarjha wrote: post #40
mindgam3 wrote: post #35

Not quite as bad as it sounds. > Laptops that have replaced batteries won’t be impacted Edit: re how to check, in theory you could prove it was fixed by showing the service receipt from Apple. In practice, I have no idea what would happen. But I feel like you'd get through if you showed up with a printed receipt taped to your laptop.

How are they going to check this?

Lying to a TSA officer or a FAA agent would likely be a felony, onus is on the passenger to not want to commit a felony.

I.e same honour-system that works for 99% of bans.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by clamprecht »

1e-9 wrote: post #39
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can open the MBP up and show the agent your About Mac window in the setting menu. It has the serial number, but more importantly, it will tell them the year of the laptop (mine says mid 2014).

Along with the hassle of opening the laptop, powering it on, and clicking About This Mac; you would have the security issue of entering your password while surrounded by other people and cameras. None of the verification options seem very appealing.

Make a separate account on your Mac for just this purpose.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by atm0sphere »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #32
adonnjohn wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't this tiptoe the line with a breach of privacy? Once the computer is unlocked, is there anything stopping them from just seizing devices if they want to review data?

From my understanding, TSA security isn't customs, so it isn't a constitution suspended zone.

More info:

https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by sjwright »

clamprecht wrote: post #66
1e-9 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Along with the hassle of opening the laptop, powering it on, and clicking About This Mac; you would have the security issue of entering your password while surrounded by other people and cameras. None of the verification options seem very appealing.

Make a separate account on your Mac for just this purpose.

Be aware that any valid normal user account password can decrypt your hard disk—the exception being a guest account which forces the entire computer to restart into a separate, fully neutered system.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by [deleted] »

tombert wrote: post #44
tyingq wrote: post #9

The TSA will clearly have issues managing this. All MacBooks look the same to them. They can't currently manage basic stuff like "baby formula might need different rules than our 3oz standard for liquids." Expect pressure on Apple to make it a non-issue.

They even said that laptops with replaced batteries are fine...how on earth are they going to enforce that? What's stopping me from saying "Oh yeah, I got the battery serviced last month"?

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Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Post by wtallis »

gesman wrote: post #36
stefan_ wrote: post #2

But you can keep bringing your 100 Wh powerbanks (coincidentally the same energy as contained in a 2015 15 inch MacBook battery).

My Laptop takes 2 x 230W power supplies, lol.

1. Watt-hours are not the same thing as Watts.

2. That's not a laptop, that's a luggable.

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