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FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Not quite as bad as it sounds. > Laptops that have replaced batteries won’t be impacted Edit: re how to check, in theory you could prove it was fixed by showing the service receipt from Apple. In practice, I have no idea what would happen. But I feel like you'd get through if you showed up with a printed receipt taped to your laptop.

Is it possible to identify a laptop that has had the replacement?

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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It will probably be quite effective. Travelers will see these articles, and airlines will probably send out reminders to people not to bring these machines on the plane. Most people with them will get them fixed or leave them at home, and the risk is greatly diminished. It's not a bomb where any failure to keep it off the planes is catastrophic. They can afford to have some people defying the ban.

Even if it gets fixed, how would TSA know that? If TSA doesn't check at all, then the "solution" is relying on people following a rule that has no enforcement. How many people are going to actually read these articles to know which models are affected? How many people are going to remember the articles when it's time for them to go to the airport? How many people are simply going to ignore the rule because their MBP…

Yes, they can afford it. The purpose is just to reduce risk. The rule doesn't need to be, and I'm sure it wasn't intend to be, foolproof.

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The TSA will clearly have issues managing this. All MacBooks look the same to them. They can't currently manage basic stuff like "baby formula might need different rules than our 3oz standard for liquids." Expect pressure on Apple to make it a non-issue.

They even said that laptops with replaced batteries are fine...how on earth are they going to enforce that? What's stopping me from saying "Oh yeah, I got the battery serviced last month"?

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To everyone saying “how will they enforce this?” the answer is the same as everything else. If you take a gun on a plane and get through TSA with it, you still committed a felony. If you then use the gun and put a hole in the plane, you’ll be personally liable for that.

If you take an explody battery on a plane and it explodes, the liability is on you.

The TSA might ask you if your laptop has an unsafe battery. That will probably be the extent of the enforcement. Now you know that you could be committing a crime if you haven’t checked it.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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The TSA will clearly have issues managing this. All MacBooks look the same to them. They can't currently manage basic stuff like "baby formula might need different rules than our 3oz standard for liquids." Expect pressure on Apple to make it a non-issue.

They even said that laptops with replaced batteries are fine...how on earth are they going to enforce that? What's stopping me from saying "Oh yeah, I got the battery serviced last month"?

Nothing. Except your desire not to commit a crime of taking banned items on a plane.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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The TSA will clearly have issues managing this. All MacBooks look the same to them. They can't currently manage basic stuff like "baby formula might need different rules than our 3oz standard for liquids." Expect pressure on Apple to make it a non-issue.

I actually took an 10 inch screwdriver on to a flight accidently. When I was unpacking at the hotel I was like "how the F did this get past the security check?"

Another time I was running late for my flight and forgot to empty my 16oz water bottle. After my bag went through the scanner I realized my mistake and told the TSA agent about it. He uncapped the bottle, swirrled the water around, sniffed it, and then handed me back 16 ounces of water and said not to worry about it.

So yeah, I have minimal expectation TSA will catch this.

Now UK airport security might handle it. I've been specifically asked if my laptop has been damaged, is swelling or has been recently repaired. I assume if you answer yes to any of those questions your device is banned from flying.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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How the heck would a TSA agent know the difference

They have serial numbers on the outside of the cases.

When people are parting out Macbooks, the bottom case panel with the serial number is the least valuable part.

I had trouble selling them for $10 each.

6 screws (proprietary screwdriver required, $3 AliEbay) and you can swap them out.

Re: FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights

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Okay, but does Apple change the serial number when you send it in to get it fixed? How are they supposed to know that I already sent mine in and got a replacement battery from Apple? Guess I have to carry proof around with me? (To be clear I’m not arguing with the poster I’m directly responding to. Just trying to think through this process like the OP mentioned.)

The Apple website has a lookup that will tell you if a seriel number is affected and has not already been fixed. They keep track of the fixed machines.

This database is inaccurate, my machine was repaired early this year prior to the recall (irritatingly at my cost as the batteries were swollen). It is still listed as requiring replacement batteries via this search...
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