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Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

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post #10

True hackers can see the underlying structure of things others don't see. True hackers have the ability to solve problems others don't see. Real hackers are somewhere learning to see and helping others connect what's true so they can see too.

So, Slack?

Riot, Keybase, Freenode, the list goes on...

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

#43

Please define "real hackers".

People who don't sellout to the corporate agenda... watching HN'ers downvote me for pointing out the videogame industry has been stealing PC games for the last 20 years was alarming. We went from owning diablo, warcraft and starcraft games to not owning them... that is a major change and to see a place that calls itself the place of "hackers" and nerds, who theoretically should all be about fighting to preserve culture against the corporate onslaught against our basic rights to own our own software and not have it tied to "the cloud" is disturbing in it's own right.

Seems everyone wants to be a slave to the mainframe and have no privacy and no general computing.

Not getting that the corporations of the world are hell bent on turning the PC into a dumb client and everyones bending over is disturbing.

The stuff Microsoft has in the pipe with UWP and encrypted computing is alarming on its own, "honest files" of the past, not trapped in some vm or some remotely controlled new microsoft file system and license servers for this new Software as a service (aka stealing your software an selling to back to you at inflated prices) is madness itself.

There is no reason for any piece of software whether that be an OS, Office application or Game to be divided between our computers and the companies.

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

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There is no such thing as a real hacker. Same as there is no true Scottsman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

I take issue with "real" hacker categorisation as it implements a gatekeeping barrier for people and the definition of what a hacker is differs between communities.

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

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post #25
post #3

mostly (and still) on the un-encrypted IRC :D

I miss hanging out in #CSS with the topic explicitly saying the channel wasn’t about Counter-Strike: Source. You’d still get new people asking for a scirm every so often though.

5v5 box-model against grid layout GO GO GO

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

#47

Freenode is a good place.. the /list command will show you channels once you connect. Popular ones are #hardware, #linux, #windows, #python, #debian, #bash, ##networking, etc. There is a channel for most major technologies.

The /list command is an old interface for listing server's channels; it won't allow to filter channels by wildcard on Freenode; consider using the Alis bot for paging and filtering: /msg Alis help

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

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post #35

I had similar feelings a year ago and wanted to setup a “diet” for my mind; I’d only allow quality information, opinions to enter my mind, not just random stuff. Firstly, the best way to access/find valuable knowledge is still books. Then, I have Freenode open in background for technical conversations, and also follow some good quality podcasts in non-technical subjects; from history to art. If I got a question, I ei…

That's a great way to put it - a diet for the mind.

On that note, do you mind sharing the list of podcasts you subscribe to?

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

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Most likely in private, invite-only chat servers and email lists of various kinds. Anything that's publicly exposed to the internet has too much noise these days. I remember when it was difficult to moderate a chat channel or a web forum back in the 00's. It's much tougher today because of the volume of people you're exposed to. "Only once you can successfully wrestle a herd of monkeys will you truly be ready to mana…

> Most likely in private, invite-only chat servers and email lists of various kinds. Anything that's publicly exposed to the internet has too much noise these days.

Honestly, this is the best answer. I would argue private IRC channels and servers because the people who use IRC are less likely to use the data-collecting behemoths that are Slack and Discord.

Re: Ask HN: Where do the real hackers hangout?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, so hear me out: I'm a young dumb kid, and I just don't get irc. I'll join a supposedly active irc channel for something I'm working on, do whatever the channel wants as far as registering, etc. Once I'm in, nothing. No one seems to be chatting about anything, the only messages I see are logging people joining and leaving. One time I left an irc client open for hours and i finally saw some other human asked a ques…

This is my experience on irc today as well. It’s dead. I used to keep a few channels open at work all day long in 2007. #j2me, #java, #c. The conversation was active with no more than a few minutes of silence at a time. People would say good morning at the start of the day, goodbye at the end, they would talk about their weekend. It was like a virtual break room where you could ask tech questions (except #c was hosti…

> This is my experience on irc today as well. It’s dead.

It's not dead. You're just in the wrong severs.

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