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Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by 1000units »

c0vfefe wrote: post #399
Iv wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first boss started to respect me after we had a shouting negotiation with him over my work contract. The employer-employee relationship is weird and toxic as hell. Work long hours? Develop additional tool during your free time? Help clients more than your job requires? You are a sucker. Manage to shout enough to get a raise? Now you are a champion.

Maybe it's only made toxic by those who need to shout to negotiate a raise.

I know people who have killed for a couple thousand dollars. It's no surprise I've met many others who will lie, cheat, and connive for more. If people think you're a weakling, they will rob you. As a normal employee, you don't have many options for defending yourself besides clear verbal argument and leaving for greener pastures.

Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by c0vfefe »

1000units wrote: post #401
c0vfefe wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's only made toxic by those who need to shout to negotiate a raise.

I know people who have killed for a couple thousand dollars. It's no surprise I've met many others who will lie, cheat, and connive for more. If people think you're a weakling, they will rob you. As a normal employee, you don't have many options for defending yourself besides clear verbal argument and leaving for greener pastures.

I hope you can make your way toward a less noxious & more trusting version of the human experience.

Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by leon1212 »

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Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by bostik »

mehrdadn wrote: post #286
bostik wrote: post #205

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I am going to hazard a guess: you have not been exposed to some of the nuttier regulations within this space. The regulatory demands in financial technology, and especially in those industries where both the regulators as well as majority of the players may not be technically literate, are effectively the anti-thesis of robust and reliable engineering. When the industry regulations demand that for every potentially d…

> There are research papers from 1950's that explicitly endorse [rapid] iterative bottom-up approach as the only sensible way forward. Interested in this... any links?

In my sibling response I mentioned that just 5 articles have been truly valuable. In no particular order:

DOI: 10.1109/MC.2003.1204375 ; "Iterative and Incremental Development: A Brief History"

DOI: 10.1109/AGILE.2013.17 ; "Continuous Delivery? Easy! Just Change Everything (Well, Maybe It Is Not That Easy)"

DOI (with link): https://doi.org/10.1002/spip.344 ; "The agile professional culture: A source of agile quality" [the article itself is pretty light on useful material but it contains some of the strongest individual arguments I've seen, all in one package]

Direct PDF link: https://www.futureworksconsulting.com/perch/resources/pdfs/t... [the valuable material is on the first page]

DOI: 10.1.1.428.5843 ; "Evaluation of Quality AssuranceFactorsinAgile Methodologies"

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There are plenty of other reports and papers on the topics, but they bring very little to the table on their own. These five have provided me with a decent starting point. The references to findings and reports from 1950's are in the first one, btw.

Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by mehrdadn »

bostik wrote: post #404
mehrdadn wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are research papers from 1950's that explicitly endorse [rapid] iterative bottom-up approach as the only sensible way forward. Interested in this... any links?

In my sibling response I mentioned that just 5 articles have been truly valuable. In no particular order: DOI: 10.1109/MC.2003.1204375 ; "Iterative and Incremental Development: A Brief History" DOI: 10.1109/AGILE.2013.17 ; "Continuous Delivery? Easy! Just Change Everything (Well, Maybe It Is Not That Easy)" DOI (with link): https://doi.org/10.1002/spip.344 ; "The agile professional culture: A source of agile quality"…

Thank you!

Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by 1000units »

c0vfefe wrote: post #402
1000units wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know people who have killed for a couple thousand dollars. It's no surprise I've met many others who will lie, cheat, and connive for more. If people think you're a weakling, they will rob you. As a normal employee, you don't have many options for defending yourself besides clear verbal argument and leaving for greener pastures.

I hope you can make your way toward a less noxious & more trusting version of the human experience.

It's mean out here on these streets I'm from. I envy you.

Re: Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth

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Post by c0vfefe »

1000units wrote: post #406
c0vfefe wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope you can make your way toward a less noxious & more trusting version of the human experience.

It's mean out here on these streets I'm from. I envy you.

You don't envy me, you don't know anything about me.
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