The Horror of Microsoft Teams • Hacker News Board

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by DubiousPusher » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:00 PM UTC

It's interesting that Teams is often compared to email or chat. It's much more akin to a forum or bulletin board system. I've found this to be a pretty powerful thing to have at work. However, it does happen to fit my work groups use case very well. We work on lots of short term projects. Each of these we spin up a "team" for. These are 3D projects that require a lot of media sharing from a cross disciplinary which works fairly well in Teams. It's been a pretty happy addition over Outlook (barf) and Skype for Business aka Lync.

Full disclosure, I work at MS. And I have never used Slack though would be glad to try it.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by m4tthumphrey » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:00 PM UTC

My team were using HipChat and had to find an alternative when they sold off to Slack. They actually offered a really good discount to move over. But as the company already recently moved to O365 and Teams is free within that, I thought I'd give it a try. My team hated it, I tolerated it. Until one day I'd just had enough of the UX that Teams brings. The biggest issue was the threading; it truly beggars belief. We ended up using multi user IM messages instead of channels. Moving (and paying) for Slack was the best decision I made.

That being said, the Teams UX will slowly and steadily improve. It will be interesting to see where we are in a few years. I hope to see both Teams and Slack support SIP, they surely must already be working on it.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by EpicEng » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:03 PM UTC

pixelbath wrote: post #2

I could add so much to this, and in fact, recently closed a text file enumerating issues I had with Teams because I felt it wasn't a good use of my time, since I felt like I was the only one having problems with it. A few more points, in case anybody in the Teams team is reading: 1. Implement filters. Filters for teams, filters for channels, filters for search results. I can't filter my Files by file type, so it's a…

#3 Skype is discontinued and Teams is the replacement. That's likely why.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by robocat » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:03 PM UTC

And Microsoft thinks it's a good idea to add an advert to use Teams into Windows (added to the autostarted program list, so you see the popup every time you restart Windows).

Just shows that the OS is for Microsoft's benefit, not for your productivity.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by goda90 » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:09 PM UTC

We recently switched from being a small team piloting Mattermost to using Teams as it rolls out to the whole company. We sorely miss Mattermost. It'll be nice to be able to reach more people in the company via chat than we could before, but everything about the UI is lacking, except maybe how replying works.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by mastry » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

csours wrote: post #17

The lack of muting/do not disturb is why I just leave MS Teams off all the time.

Teams does have a "Do not disturb" setting. Either right-click the taskbar icon or click your user picture in the app.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by late2part » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:15 PM UTC

DubiousPusher wrote: post #21

It's interesting that Teams is often compared to email or chat. It's much more akin to a forum or bulletin board system. I've found this to be a pretty powerful thing to have at work. However, it does happen to fit my work groups use case very well. We work on lots of short term projects. Each of these we spin up a "team" for. These are 3D projects that require a lot of media sharing from a cross disciplinary which w…

Do folks on your team understand how poor your product is for users?

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by late2part » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:17 PM UTC

EpicEng wrote: post #23

pixelbath wrote: post #2

I could add so much to this, and in fact, recently closed a text file enumerating issues I had with Teams because I felt it wasn't a good use of my time, since I felt like I was the only one having problems with it. A few more points, in case anybody in the Teams team is reading: 1. Implement filters. Filters for teams, filters for channels, filters for search results. I can't filter my Files by file type, so it's a…

#3 Skype is discontinued and Teams is the replacement. That's likely why.

T-Bot = Clippy v4

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by macns » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:17 PM UTC

robocat wrote: post #24

And Microsoft thinks it's a good idea to add an advert to use Teams into Windows (added to the autostarted program list, so you see the popup every time you restart Windows). Just shows that the OS is for Microsoft's benefit, not for your productivity.

Not to mention this thing kept installing itself even when I uninstalled it for the 5th time! I gave up!

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by bitL » Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:18 PM UTC

BTW, what happened to Outlook on iOS recently? Three months ago it was snappy, started immediately and notifications were cleared the moment messages were read; these days it takes ~5s to start, unread notifications stay for another ~5s after the message is read, confusing me about having new mail, and if the same mailbox is set up on two iOS devices, only one gets notifications. Is old Microsoft back?