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Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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The last time antitrust action was taken against Microsoft ( United States v. Microsoft Corp. , filed in 2001), law folks' tech-illiteracy and Microsoft's slitheriness led to a penalty of merely having to publish API documentation. The aim had been to make Windows an interface that competitors could implement. I hope Microsoft gets served for antitrust again, and that this time a savvier legal community can actually…

Why? Who cares about this and how would it be in the public good?

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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My guess is because they've been marketing themselves extra well lately and tech folks are eating it up.

This.

All that tech people see is Microsoft positioning itself as this open and FOSS friendly company. But this is just a tiny fraction of what they do and mostly fuelled by a tiny fraction of their employees.

The corporate facing rest hasn't changed a bit. Quite the contrary. Their licensing has become even more opaque, their overreach regarding what they shove down user's throats has increased, and you can't be sure you're the costumer anymore. But all of this stays hidden within some IT department who are mostly staffed by Windows admins who wouldn't know better anyway and don't complain. The developers who rave about the cool new Microsoft never have to deal with the blunt impact.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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The last time antitrust action was taken against Microsoft ( United States v. Microsoft Corp. , filed in 2001), law folks' tech-illiteracy and Microsoft's slitheriness led to a penalty of merely having to publish API documentation. The aim had been to make Windows an interface that competitors could implement. I hope Microsoft gets served for antitrust again, and that this time a savvier legal community can actually…

Why? Who cares about this and how would it be in the public good?

Yet it is probably installed on over 95% of non-mac laptops.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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Isn't it obvious? Microsoft's former monopoly was eroded first by the web, then phones, then tablets. Using a non-Microsoft computing platform is nowhere near as restricting as it was in the 90s. And they never got the same foothold in newer markets they entered since then.

Except they still control the OS market.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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1) Nobody takes the Microsoft Store seriously 2) People barely take Bing seriously 3) Nobody cares about LinkedIn as a channel for free expression, nor is it a breeding ground for dangerous ideologies 4) Microsoft is generally much more enterprise-focused than these other companies, which all have very active footholds in the lives of regular people. When it comes to something like the power to make or break democrac…

Antitrust law isn't a tool to secure democracy but to secure competition. I don't think the worry is about actions taken by Microsoft hurting democracy; the concern is MS systems being insecure owing to a lack of competitive pressure and, as a consequence, being vulnerable to democracy-disrupting attacks.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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1) Nobody takes the Microsoft Store seriously 2) People barely take Bing seriously 3) Nobody cares about LinkedIn as a channel for free expression, nor is it a breeding ground for dangerous ideologies 4) Microsoft is generally much more enterprise-focused than these other companies, which all have very active footholds in the lives of regular people. When it comes to something like the power to make or break democrac…

It certainly has an impact when it comes to the operating system and metrics they collect.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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post #10

The last time antitrust action was taken against Microsoft ( United States v. Microsoft Corp. , filed in 2001), law folks' tech-illiteracy and Microsoft's slitheriness led to a penalty of merely having to publish API documentation. The aim had been to make Windows an interface that competitors could implement. I hope Microsoft gets served for antitrust again, and that this time a savvier legal community can actually…

Why? Who cares about this and how would it be in the public good?

So that more secure implementations than MS's can offer a transition for organizations dependent on it.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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>One potential reason why Google, Facebook, and Amazon have been singled out for criticism of practices that seem common in the tech industry (and are often pro-consumer) may be due to the prevailing business model in the journalism industry. Google and Facebook are by far the largest competitors in the digital advertising market, and Amazon is expected to be the third-largest player by next year, according to eMarke…

Agreed. The much more blindingly obvious reason to me seems to be that Google, Facebook and Amazon are just really huge companies. Why would you write articles about something smaller?

Are you implying that Microsoft is smaller than Google, Facebook or Amazon? Using market capitalization as a measure, Microsoft is currently the larger company.

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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Isn't it obvious? Microsoft's former monopoly was eroded first by the web, then phones, then tablets. Using a non-Microsoft computing platform is nowhere near as restricting as it was in the 90s. And they never got the same foothold in newer markets they entered since then.

Except they still control the OS market.

Including macOS, iOS, android, chromeos, linux? (Laugh at the last one if you must, but it is more viable today than it was in the 1990s chiefly because platform agnostic web based content is more normal in niches formerly occupied by Win32.)

Re: Why Don’t People Talk About Breaking Up Microsoft?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Who cares about this and how would it be in the public good?

Yet it is probably installed on over 95% of non-mac laptops.

It's less of a walled garden than OSX, which isn't even virtualisable.
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