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Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by tomjen3 »

tfha wrote: post #23
DenisM wrote: post #15

Can this fight ever be won? If you've been browsing the internet for more than 5 minutes you already have cookies from some of the major ad networks. Therefore if you do not have cookies from the major ad networks, you're either a brand-new device or an incognito browser. All that is left to do is get in bed with the ad network to ask them if they have good cookies for this session. As it so happens most of the compa…

Just don't use sites that dont respect your privacy. If it doesn't like you blocking cookies, walk away.

I highly recommend Temporary Containers for Firefox. It can be set up so that every time you open a new tab, that is a new context, new logins, new cookies.

No reason to block sites that set cookies, since in a few minutes they will be deleted anyway.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by tomjen3 »

kspacewalk2 wrote: post #44
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about passing laws which forbid tracking users like this and levying steep, business-ending fines against the companies who don't step in line?

No problem. All your favourite online services are no longer free though, what a bummer. Will it be a lite, regular or premium Google maps subscription? How about Facebook Messenger?

Premium Google thank you, Facebook I will love to see emplode, Twitter will slowly die away and I will be able to go back to RSS feeds to peoples blogs.

I already pay for newsblur.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by tomjen3 »

Mindwipe wrote: post #137
NKCSS wrote: post #136

The dutch cable company 'Ziggo' (owned by Liberty Global) also does Incognito mode detection in their web-based tv player and does not allow streaming. https://imgur.com/a/TacdDRm You can check it yourself here: https://www.ziggogo.tv/

I don't believe that's actually their fault, HTML5 EME implementations don't work in incognito mode in Chrome. But that is another way in which newspaper sites could do this detection is they wanted to, send an HTML5 EME clearkey to a one pixel video in the corner and get back the error response. I think Google are on to a complete loser here tbh, and I'm not sure why they're wasting development resource. As much as…

The moral justification could just as easily be turned around: a website does not get to run arbitrary code on my computer, so I can (and do, by default) turn of javascript.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by swebs »

wintorez wrote: post #40

Client tracking throw Browser Fingerprinting is a spooky tech. Check these two websites to see for yourself. Try using different browsers, even aVPN connection, and see how trackable you are: 1) https://panopticlick.eff.org 2) https://amiunique.org

Goddamnit, I'm blocking everything except CSS and images through uMatrix and it was still able to determine I was unique due to the "If none match" header.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by ludjer »

mort96 wrote: post #151
shultays wrote: post #147

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Well, that is a bit paranoid.

It's not though? If your goal is to avoid having your every move online tracked by companies hoping to earn money from spying on you, what Stallman does is one of the few strategies which work.

Well the fact that he uses WGET on a remote server means that its a static ip in a DC most probably. Which means its allot easier to track him. Also considering the amount of pages i go through i would rather have no internet then have to wait for a email for ever page i want to use. Then also half the pages wont work because of no JS.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by thiagomgd »

tomjen3 wrote: post #181
tfha wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just don't use sites that dont respect your privacy. If it doesn't like you blocking cookies, walk away.

I highly recommend Temporary Containers for Firefox. It can be set up so that every time you open a new tab, that is a new context, new logins, new cookies. No reason to block sites that set cookies, since in a few minutes they will be deleted anyway.

that's something I miss in chrome/opera

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by Mindwipe »

tomjen3 wrote: post #183
Mindwipe wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe that's actually their fault, HTML5 EME implementations don't work in incognito mode in Chrome. But that is another way in which newspaper sites could do this detection is they wanted to, send an HTML5 EME clearkey to a one pixel video in the corner and get back the error response. I think Google are on to a complete loser here tbh, and I'm not sure why they're wasting development resource. As much as…

The moral justification could just as easily be turned around: a website does not get to run arbitrary code on my computer, so I can (and do, by default) turn of javascript.

If you want to you're very welcome to.

That's really not the same thing as Google actively developing a tool to block soft paywalls, that will primarily be used by people to just not pay for things who really don't give a stuff about people running things on their computer or not.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Post by stronglikedan »

TylerE wrote: post #25
samtheprogram wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just use a temporary file system like /tmp? EDIT: I suppose these are often backed by memory anyway, so not sure if this would solve the problem, but interested in hearing arguments around it nonetheless.

Because there is zero guarantee /tmp gets cleared regularly, if ever.

But that onus is on the OS, not the browser.
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