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‘No One Saw a Thing’: When a Midwest Town Banded Together to Kill the Town Bully

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Re: ‘No One Saw a Thing’: When a Midwest Town Banded Together to Kill the Town Bully

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Post by mieseratte »

neaden wrote: post #257
liability wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely you don't really believe that of the 1,297 white people lynched, all were innocent. His point remains then, there is no shortage of guilty white men getting lynched in American history. Lots of white murderers and rapists got lynched, sometimes after they were convicted in court, by mobs who were impatient or particularly enraged.

Special doesn't mean unique. This is the second time you've engaged in bad faith with what I've said.

So what is special to mean here? Uncommon as to be noteworthy? Based on what data?

It is also worth pointing out you assume the man is guilty and deserving of death, but this is arbitrary lynching. Even our most heinous deserve their day in court. Innocent until proven guilty is more than a multiple choice test answer.

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Post by myrandomcomment »

wtdata wrote: post #259
myrandomcomment wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A number of stories on the front page of the BBC (UK) in the last week have been about the issues of the rise Knife violence. The band guns, and now there is an increase of murders via a knife. Bad people do not follow the law.

You do realize that personal gun ownership was always banned in the UK, like, since ever, right? That "statistic" you just tried to pass about how knife attacks increased when the UK banned guns, was completely made up.

"...but handguns were effectively banned after the Dunblane school massacre in 1996 with the exception of Northern Ireland."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_the_Uni...

They have not always had the outright ban they have now.

Knife Crime:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

With the number of fatal stabbings in England and Wales in 2017-18 the highest since records began - the BBC has tracked the first 100 killings in 2019 - revealing the people behind the headlines. - Mar 8, 2019

"there were 285 knife murders in England and Wales in 2017/18 — the highest number since the Second World War — and 34 in Scotland"

Not everything is black and white.

Re: ‘No One Saw a Thing’: When a Midwest Town Banded Together to Kill the Town Bully

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Post by liability »

neaden wrote: post #257
liability wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely you don't really believe that of the 1,297 white people lynched, all were innocent. His point remains then, there is no shortage of guilty white men getting lynched in American history. Lots of white murderers and rapists got lynched, sometimes after they were convicted in court, by mobs who were impatient or particularly enraged.

Special doesn't mean unique. This is the second time you've engaged in bad faith with what I've said.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I responded to you, but whatever... If you concede that it's not unique, what makes you think it's special? I don't feel as though you are making a good faith effort to express your ideas clearly, and are instead choosing to nitpick the precision with which people paraphrase your argument.

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Post by epx »

fallingfrog wrote: post #251
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The exceptions to this are strippers and prostitutes.

Guys you seem to have some issues with women, but rather than chastise you for it, I’m gonna give you the 3 steps towards getting a date. Ready for this? 1). Get good at talking to people, getting to know them. Making jokes and small talk. This requires practice but you can practice on anyone, talking to men and women is kind of the same skill. 2). Expand your social network. Join a book club. A lot of times the peop…

I am married and have a kid, both irrational decisions. The rational part was getting a vasectomy right after kid #1. Every irresponsible men I know have 3, 4 kids around, and are proud of it.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

fallingfrog wrote: post #251
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The exceptions to this are strippers and prostitutes.

Guys you seem to have some issues with women, but rather than chastise you for it, I’m gonna give you the 3 steps towards getting a date. Ready for this? 1). Get good at talking to people, getting to know them. Making jokes and small talk. This requires practice but you can practice on anyone, talking to men and women is kind of the same skill. 2). Expand your social network. Join a book club. A lot of times the peop…

Happily married, thanks for the condescension though.

If anything my statement about prostitution was that women were profiting off of men's lizard brains.

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Post by vorpalhex »

rocqua wrote: post #142
vorpalhex wrote: post #132

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See the recent case of the man who was convicted after punching a white supremacist in the face.. and charged with a $1 fine.

I thought that (beyond the death penalty) the jury does not get to determine sentencing, just guilt.

Depends on the Jurisdiction.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/charlottes...

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Post by vorpalhex »

cjohnson318 wrote: post #137
vorpalhex wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See the recent case of the man who was convicted after punching a white supremacist in the face.. and charged with a $1 fine.

See it where? This anecdote sounds more like a jury or a judge making an exception in an extenuating circumstance, than the exercise of an existing law, or precedent.

How was this an exception? The attacker was charged, they chose to give a (very) lenient punishment with the circumstances considered.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/charlottes...

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Post by fallingfrog »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #265
fallingfrog wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guys you seem to have some issues with women, but rather than chastise you for it, I’m gonna give you the 3 steps towards getting a date. Ready for this? 1). Get good at talking to people, getting to know them. Making jokes and small talk. This requires practice but you can practice on anyone, talking to men and women is kind of the same skill. 2). Expand your social network. Join a book club. A lot of times the peop…

Happily married, thanks for the condescension though. If anything my statement about prostitution was that women were profiting off of men's lizard brains.

Show this thread to your wife then and see what she thinks.

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Post by Anthony-G »

yellowapple wrote: post #9

> Britt Small, in fact, says that the only mistake made during the entire ordeal was not killing Trena too Wait, what did Trena do to also be a potential target here? Just guilt by association? Or was she actually actively participating in the criminal acts (and not being coerced to do so, as I imagine one might be before/while/after marrying a violent criminal at age 12)? The article couldn't, you know, delve into t…

To add to the other responses: according to http://mentalfloss.com/article/574749/ken-mcelroy-murder-ski...

> She became his accomplice, accompanying McElroy on several of his nocturnal visits to people he had targeted for harassment. As McElroy ranted, she would stand nearby, a firearm in her hands.

Re: ‘No One Saw a Thing’: When a Midwest Town Banded Together to Kill the Town Bully

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

fallingfrog wrote: post #268
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happily married, thanks for the condescension though. If anything my statement about prostitution was that women were profiting off of men's lizard brains.

Show this thread to your wife then and see what she thinks.

My wife would be utterly unsurprised I made the joke in the middle of a distasteful discussion - I was just commenting on what was paying the bills - I wasn't condoning or discussing the rest of the thread.
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