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Re: Hong Kong Airport shuts down as protesters take over

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Post by rado »

loriverkutya wrote: post #20
dustinmoris wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I don't think that HK have an actual plan here. They just protest for the sake of protesting. China will never step down and if anything HK makes it really really easy for China to claim more control now over HK because HK proves itself to be not in control of its citizen. China is the most important market in the world, no other country will intervene with China, especially not given that the largest country…

> I've been to China and Hong Kong. In China people looked relaxed, spent time relaxing in parks and socialising. I assume you did not visited Xinjiang where Uyghurs are not really relaxing in parks.

His point stands when you compare the streets of the major cities to the onslaught of Western propaganda that ignores everyday life. Propaganda against "communism" which just isn't there. A large portion of the lawmakers in Beijing are industrialists.

Re: Hong Kong Airport shuts down as protesters take over

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Post by [deleted] »

notwumao wrote: post #55

I am a mainland-born Chinese who studied in the US and have been living in HK for over a decade. Just want to share what I saw recently: an overwhelming majority of Chinese people who grew up in mainland, regardless of where they live and work now, disapprove of the HK protesters' activities. Many mainland Chinese living in HK, who were largely not interested in politics in the past, have started donating money to pr…

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Re: Hong Kong Airport shuts down as protesters take over

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Post by dustinmoris »

So far China has been extremely calm and restrained itself from doing anything premature and yet they are being portrayed as the absolute worst people.

On the other hand there are governments like the US which immediately respond with military action even in countries where people protest which have nothing to do with the US and they are being portrayed as the heroes.

It's funny how the HK protests and the immense media coverage coincide with the trade war escalations between the US and China.

Even this forum is being gamed by people who come here and specifically post and upvote a narrative which they want to push on us. Anyone who doesn't see through this bs is naive.

Re: Hong Kong Airport shuts down as protesters take over

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Post by vezycash »

CogitoCogito wrote: post #66
notwumao wrote: post #55

I am a mainland-born Chinese who studied in the US and have been living in HK for over a decade. Just want to share what I saw recently: an overwhelming majority of Chinese people who grew up in mainland, regardless of where they live and work now, disapprove of the HK protesters' activities. Many mainland Chinese living in HK, who were largely not interested in politics in the past, have started donating money to pr…

May I ask you why you are against the protests? Also would you support the CCP making a public statement taking a step back and agreeing to listen to the protesters' concerns?

Cognitive dissonance?

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Post by throwaway2048 »

oraphalous wrote: post #67
Multicomp wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In response to the protests, the government line has been to continue to stall and to claim that everything happening in Hong Kong is magically just the result of foreign interference by actors like the CIA, that way they don't have to actually listen to their own people, they can just plug their ears and say lalalalala the CIA did it all. This comment appears to support that general narrative, so I suspect people ar…

How are the ringleaders surviving? Not a lot of bank to made protesting I suspect. I resent the claim tho that my comment supports the "general narrative" - I explicitly disavow the Chinese regime as authoritarian that "deserves comeuppance". I'll add here that I think the protesters have a genuine cause that deserves support. I do, however, think that the CIA, the U.S. and the west generally - doesn't actually give…

Do you really think that a protest movement with such widespread support has leaders that need to be supported financially somehow by the CIA?

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Post by willis936 »

kitsune_ wrote: post #49

I don't think this will end well, the more this drags on, the more violent it will probably become. At some point the state will probably have a pretty good excuse to declare martial law and enforce order by military means, ultimately it might fasten the integration of Hong Kong into the PRC instead of delaying it.

You’re implying that the people should just lay down and take it? They are risking their lives for their principles and they are doing it the right way.

Re: Hong Kong Airport shuts down as protesters take over

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Post by nobody0 »

loriverkutya wrote: post #20
dustinmoris wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I don't think that HK have an actual plan here. They just protest for the sake of protesting. China will never step down and if anything HK makes it really really easy for China to claim more control now over HK because HK proves itself to be not in control of its citizen. China is the most important market in the world, no other country will intervene with China, especially not given that the largest country…

> I've been to China and Hong Kong. In China people looked relaxed, spent time relaxing in parks and socialising. I assume you did not visited Xinjiang where Uyghurs are not really relaxing in parks.

Have you visited there then? What I know is there haven't been major terrorist attacks for quite a few years.

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Post by sjwright »

bitanarch wrote: post #28

The new protests happened because a new round of violence from the HK Police, towards both protesters and people unrelated to protests. e.g. Firing less-lethal rounds directly at head level, causing permanent blindness https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/cowgje/a_female_p... e.g. Planting evidence into protester's backpack https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/coypg7/police_put... e.g. Firing tear gas in…

I agree with your sentiments, except

> Planting evidence into protester's backpack

Look at the video. The officer bends over to pick something off the ground and is not being subtle in any way in placing the items into his backpack. It's impossible to tell from the video what the items actually are, but it doesn't look suspicious to me. Perhaps a length of tube he was using to transport a protest banner? Whatever it is it looks like the sort of thing that would easily fall out of a loose backpack like his in a minor skirmish.

It could be the planting of evidence, but I don't think we have enough facts to make that assertion without strong qualifiers.

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Post by olalonde »

notwumao wrote: post #55

I am a mainland-born Chinese who studied in the US and have been living in HK for over a decade. Just want to share what I saw recently: an overwhelming majority of Chinese people who grew up in mainland, regardless of where they live and work now, disapprove of the HK protesters' activities. Many mainland Chinese living in HK, who were largely not interested in politics in the past, have started donating money to pr…

As a Canadian living in Shenzhen, I can confirm that most Chinese people here appear to genuinely resent/disapprove the HK protesters.
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