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GitHub Actions now supports CI/CD, free for public repositories

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Re: GitHub Actions now supports CI/CD, free for public repositories

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Post by tlunter »

wolco wrote: post #145
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #127

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> A monopoly is not inherently bad. They often benefit users with increased efficiency and productivity. They're only bad when progress stagnates and/or prices rise. My argument is every single monopoly eventually becomes 'bad' and makes progress stagnate and prices rise . Just look at Google and Amazon. Up until I'd say late-ish 00s, nearly everyone loved Google and Amazon. I remember when Google search, GMail, Maps…

Now that you mention it maps hasn't really improved since streetview. Search is worse. Gmail hasn't really changed much. I guess after it's launched new features are too difficult to add for google.

Recommend taking a look at this blog post: https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat the author has updated a couple times. The changes are subtle and are amazing for your benefit. Not seeing the change is them getting better at easing you into the new functionality, not them stagnating.

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Post by ReidZB »

dmix wrote: post #221
johnday wrote: post #191

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I hate to point this out on HN but it does seem relevant. If you dislike Google's use of ads, why not block them? I think you've acknowledged that Google and Amazon provide the best services of their respective classes. Can we find a way to maintain that high standard without the crud that comes with it?

I'm still not convinced someone couldn't build a better gmail. The web app is bloated and slow. The ads. The awkward design. Privacy issues. There's a bunch of benefits someone could offer. Fastmail tried but I still think it could be better and not based in Australia where privacy has been eroded. The barrier to entry for doing categorization, spam detection, search, autosuggestions, and even complex JS frontends is…

I agree that Fastmail's location is problematic, but other than that, I would argue it is a better Gmail already, features-wise.

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Post by asdfman123 »

lstamour wrote: post #205
asdfman123 wrote: post #154

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As a .NET developer, this just smells like trying to rope in more people to Azure DevOps and then the Azure cloud. This is Microsoft's endgame. Everything they do is to win marketshare in the cloud. I don't think it's an evil plan by any means, though, and their competition has been nothing but good for the ecosystem. Remember, they were evil about Windows because so many people didn't have any other real choice. The…

I also see this as a play for cloud marketshare, but if Github can nail the “simple yet good enough” UI standard for this CI service, it’ll win out hands-down over Azure, which would evolve to become the more niche product that does more for SME, enterprise and larger teams, perhaps. Win/win, especially if they’ve a migration strategy between the services. I just hope the free Azure DevOps plan (for open source) does…

"Win out" depending on what kind of work you do. Azure will still win enterprises and large companies.

Github could definitely win out for small projects and startups.

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Post by pas »

twalla wrote: post #64
pas wrote: post #61

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Azure Pipelines is currently considered the best CI/CD solution. (For example see GitLab issues about how users would like GitLab to improve theirs.)

[citation needed]

Can't find the discussion now on GitLab, but I recall comments claiming that Azure Pipelines is very flexible, and GitLab CI's new task DAG should be modeled after that.

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Post by micnguyen »

NathanKP wrote: post #13
marceloabsousa wrote: post #8

Is it official now that Github is becoming Gitlab? Does anyone know how they are going to bill for the compute used in the CI?

The features page has a pricing table: https://github.com/features/actions It is totally free for public repos. For private repos: - Free accounts get 2000 free minutes - Pro accounts get 3000 free minutes - Team accounts get 10k free minutes - Enterprise accounts get 50k free minutes Additional runner minutes are: - Linux: $0.008 per min - Windows: $0.016 per min - macOS: $0.08 per min (yeah that's not a typo, it is…

2000 minutes -free- on macOS is unheard of. Is there any other providers do anything like that? Finally I can run my iOS Unit Tests for free without a farm of on-prem Macs!

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Post by darek »

hlarsen wrote: post #136
eklavya wrote: post #120

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In what real scenario do you see a monopoly not doing exactly what monopolies do? Do they have some moral code they can't break? Do they hate money? What exactly is it that would make them immune to human tendencies?

this is where the Valve vs Epic argument gets interesting as Valve has consistently been pro-consumer, so i have no problem with them being a monopoly. Epic appears to be firmly pro-developer, which no matter what Tim Sweeney says isn't currently translating into an improved consumer experience.

Being pro-developer in the long term might result in better consumer experience.

Being too pro-consumer on the other hand... well, that gives you mobile gaming with heavy focus on free-to-play and plenty of ads.

Be careful what you wish for :)

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Post by maxheld83 »

skissane wrote: post #213
elevenbits wrote: post #196

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The point I think is that as GitHub adds more and more integrations (git + issues + fork graph + CI/CI + ...) then it's not so simple to move to another service. The vertical is more convenient until you realize you're an Oracle customer all over again.

With CI, I wonder if someone could build a tool which had some sort of DSL to define your CI pipeline, and then translated that to configuration files for multiple CI providers (Travis CI, CircleCI, GitHub Actions, Jenkins, etc.) If you write all your CI pipelines in that DSL, then moving to another provider would be just telling the tool to generate output for another backend. (One issue is that such a DSL could onl…

there is, oddly perhaps, an R package of all things that does this: https://github.com/ropenscilabs/tic

I personally find it almost scarily ambitious and am a bit skeptical because of the medium-term maintenance load.

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Post by n42 »

ChickeNES wrote: post #193
n42 wrote: post #28

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I can't help but feel a little worried about this. GitHub's UI has become a lot less coherent as they rapidly develop new functionality. The simplicity/focus was one of the main reasons I preferred it to GitLab. Blurring the line between the two makes it easier to imagine switching, not harder.

Huh, I find the opposite to be true. GitHub is a breeze to use and browse, while GitLab is a convoluted mess. Once GitHub made private repos free I dropped GitLab and never looked back. (Granted I'm speaking of general Git repo features, I personally have no use for CI at the moment).

I meant to say that GitLab is a mess, and GitHub seems to want to compete by also becoming a mess
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