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Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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This reminds me of a person who somehow managed an invitation to give a presentation at UC Berkeley on database compression in 1993, with similar levels of snake-oil. I remember one of the funnier moments, a theme of the presentation was how there were more and more large data sets out there, including the Library of Congress. In a burst of enthusiasm, the presenter gushed about how they even had a Stradivarius violi…

I read your comment up to the last paragraph and was going to comment about “VP at Gartner ” and how these consulting companies (and Accenture, Deloitte, etc) run on bullshit but your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. I wonder what can be done to nuke these BS companies out of existence. Anyone has ideas?

Speaking of Deloitte, they were the auditors when the Spanish bank Bankia (then a newly formed conglomerate of 6 saving banks, with Caja Madrid as the cornerstone) went public. A report was produced by Deloitte saying that the financial statements provided by the bank were accurate and that going public was a viable strategy.

The moment the bank went public their valuation went down and months later the Spanish central governement had to inject 23 billion euros (of EU money) into the bank.

We know now that that Deloitte's report was based not on actual independently collected and analyzed information but on "possible future scenarios" outlaid by Bankia's executives.

In court, Deloitte's representatives argued that they really hadn't had access to the necessary information to produce the audit. So what did Deloitte's dozens of employees worked on for months? Why did they produce a report that couldn't possibly know if it was accurate?

Bankia, Abengoa, Livent, Standard Chartered, Carillion... the pattern is always the same: "we can make it go any way you want".

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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The company has issued a "statement regarding recent allegations made at Black Hat 2019 [0]. For anyone interested, the statement links to the guy's paper [1] "where he identified the first Infinite Prime Number prediction pattern". > Utilizing multi-dimensional encryption technology, including time, music’s infinite variability, artificial intelligence, and most notably mathematical constancies to generate entangled…

This guy is a known crank. His paper popped up on /r/math a few months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/bargli/can_a_mathemat... See also: http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html Don't him too much credit. He deserves none.

He even shows up in the comments of that thread. I'd love to know if he really believes the nonsense he's spewing:

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/bargli/can_a_mathemat...

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

#163

This reminds me of a person who somehow managed an invitation to give a presentation at UC Berkeley on database compression in 1993, with similar levels of snake-oil. I remember one of the funnier moments, a theme of the presentation was how there were more and more large data sets out there, including the Library of Congress. In a burst of enthusiasm, the presenter gushed about how they even had a Stradivarius violi…

I read your comment up to the last paragraph and was going to comment about “VP at Gartner ” and how these consulting companies (and Accenture, Deloitte, etc) run on bullshit but your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. I wonder what can be done to nuke these BS companies out of existence. Anyone has ideas?

I think you need to dial back the vitriol. Yes Ive seen these firms screw projects up royally (Accenture Hertz for example). Ive also seen them consistently deliver valuable insights and outcomes for their clients. Ive worked with utterly incompetent client staff (i.e. people not so dissimilar from you, maybe) and some very very good ones (also you maybe). At no point do I advocate nuking anything or anyone out of existence. Neither should you.

Signed,

A Consultant

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Another page on achievement from the same group. https://resonance.is/resonance-academy-faculty/ Including Mr. Apollo After having a vision of the Universe as a fractal hologram at the age of 15, he extensively studied a wide variety of branches in theoretical astrophysics, completing major research papers on the potential interface between consciousness and the physics of space-time by the time he graduated High Sch…

His website is worth a look: https://www.adamapollo.com/ I'm going to sample a couple of his 27 albums. The cover art alone is a thing to behold. EDIT - I'm beginning to think we've got this all wrong. It's not a scam - it's a cult.

The main site links to the following project:

https://galacticfamily.net/

Galactic Fundamentals

Want to find out more about the Extraterrestrial Species who populate this Galaxy, learn how to make Contact, and explore the depth of your own personal relationship with the Stars?

We're still populating all the areas of this site with amazing content, but get on our list to be notified about our upcoming deep dives and contact experiences.

I mean, this doesn't quite say "come and talk to aliens" but "learn how to make Contact" does sound like promising something currently impossible.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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I don't have a link handy but I came across a statement on their website earlier mentioning that they are mostly funded by doctors.

Their press release about prime numbers suggests that they are trying to convince doctors to invest. From https://strathspeycrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SC_Pr... : > "The firm's subsidiaries and investors include board certified physician specialists across key medical specialties, including plastic surgery, ophthalmology, dermatology, dentistry and orthopedics. Strathspey Crown is focused on working with phy…

Some of their portfolio companies seem centered around Irvine, CA and Newport Beach and/or focus on plastic surgery and "wellness" marketing. Seems to me that this is a very well architected investor scam that maybe finds a legit investment from time to time, but is primarily organized around liberating small individual investors from their money.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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https://www.robertedwardgrant.com/about That's Robert Grant's personal website. Check it out. It's hilarious.

> Additionally, he has attended the President’s Seminar at Harvard Business School ('09-'16)

I can only assume it refers to this: https://www.gse.harvard.edu/event/harvard-seminar-new-presid...

Which is just an $8K six day seminar for college presidents who have no experience. But since he went 8 times, I guess that makes him a "Harvard Man".

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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https://www.robertedwardgrant.com/about That's Robert Grant's personal website. Check it out. It's hilarious.

I find it a bit depressing, really.

He has multiple publications in unified mathematics and physics related to his discoveries of quasi-prime numbers (a new classification for prime numbers), the world’s first predictive algorithm determining infinite prime numbers, and a unification wave-based theory connecting and correlating fundamental mathematical constants such as Pi, Euler, Alpha, Gamma and Phi.

This is his publications page:

https://www.robertedwardgrant.com/publications

There is one preprint on arxiv and the rest seem to be self-hosted. So "multiple publications" seems to mean "stuff I put on the internet". The titles of the articles are also very hard to take seriously. "Four-Fold Mirror-Symmetry Inherent to the Icositetragon Distribution of Numbers" sounds like something that should be submitted to "The Journal of the Numerology Society" (A. Crowley ed.) and "Unified Mathematics, Geometry and Music" is basically a collection of occult diagrams.

Also: typeset in MS Word.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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https://www.robertedwardgrant.com/about That's Robert Grant's personal website. Check it out. It's hilarious.

> He was formerly CEO and President of Bausch and Lomb Surgical in June of 2010. So he was in the position for... one month? Am I reading that correctly?

From this it seems he was there at least until 2011: https://news.chapman.edu/2011/05/16/jerry-lewis-among-commen...

PR when he was appointed in 2010: https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/bausch-and-lomb-na...

Clearly the guy made a fortune from Botox, knows how to leverage that success and build an organization around buzzwords that attract investor money.

To be fair, is that any worse than Silicon Valley VC?

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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The company has issued a "statement regarding recent allegations made at Black Hat 2019 [0]. For anyone interested, the statement links to the guy's paper [1] "where he identified the first Infinite Prime Number prediction pattern". > Utilizing multi-dimensional encryption technology, including time, music’s infinite variability, artificial intelligence, and most notably mathematical constancies to generate entangled…

This guy is a known crank. His paper popped up on /r/math a few months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/bargli/can_a_mathemat... See also: http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html Don't him too much credit. He deserves none.

It looks like he found that reddit thread.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Ups. I'm from argentina, so blame the autotranslation table inside my brain. I hope it's not bad enough to make the idea unintelligible.

Since we are correcting stuff, it is: Oops I also was thrown off by the word module. I said to myself, unless he is talking about modulo I have no idea what that is.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Module.html

The Module Learning With Rounding (MLWR) and Module Learning With Errors (MLWE) problems are used for a couple of the round-two candidates in NIST's Post-Quantum cryptography contest.

Which makes it more confusing. Modules aren't first/second year university math.

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