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Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by seren »

jacquesm wrote: post #46

Giving a sponsored talk at a conference that attracts a lot of experts in the field is an interesting attempt at hacking, had they gotten away with it they would have had that much more bragging rights while trying to land investor money. Outright scams are pretty rare but I've come across them a couple of times in the last decade, it always amazes me that investors would even begin to consider them.

It reminds me of the Steorn / Orbo free energy machine. They were so confident they bought a whole page ad in the Economist and setup a public demo of their device.

At some point, you don't know if they are scammers or if they have deluded themselves so hard they believe it.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by zucker42 »

jlgaddis wrote: post #11

The company has issued a "statement regarding recent allegations made at Black Hat 2019 [0]. For anyone interested, the statement links to the guy's paper [1] "where he identified the first Infinite Prime Number prediction pattern". > Utilizing multi-dimensional encryption technology, including time, music’s infinite variability, artificial intelligence, and most notably mathematical constancies to generate entangled…

This guy is a known crank. His paper popped up on /r/math a few months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/bargli/can_a_mathemat...

See also: http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html

Don't him too much credit. He deserves none.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by 0xDEFC0DE »

misnome wrote: post #53

I have somewhat sympathy for Black Hat, especially with the "pay for talks" model that they seem to get funding from, it's easy for these things to get a platform. I went to a maker space in the UK that occasionally held talks - one day they had a talk by some "Alkaline water" machine manufacturer (not the manufacturer, but one of the pyramid scheme dupes). Like many of these, it was a random mix of diverse actual (i…

I don’t have any sympathy, but this isn’t really that big of a deal. Black hat is expensive as fuck and they could have done without the money. I think they do less than DEFCON while also charging more but that’s just my hot take. I don’t think they’ll suffer any practical reputation damage (like people choosing NOT to go to Black hat). It’ll just be a meme and something they laugh about.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by cookie_monsta »

GordonS wrote: post #114
chvid wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Replicating the magnetohydrodynamics naturally occurring in a variety of astrophysical objects, which couples plasma modes to the harmonic structure of the quantum vacuum — the Harmonic Flux Resonator (HFR) replicates and transfers quantum energy." ... it says on the website and then it links on to a website which offers energy derived from vacuum: Vacuum Energy Energy extracted directly from the vacuum. Nothing to…

> the Harmonic Flux Resonator That's hilarious, I'd swear I've heard that on Star Trek Next Generation an age ago!

Wasn't that the thing that powered the DeLorean in Back to the Future?

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by hannasanarion »

misnome wrote: post #74
BubRoss wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A conference not accepting a talk is not censorship.

The conference accepted the talk. They gave the talk. The conference is now removing their videos after-the-fact. It's not hard to see how one could spin that as censorship.

It is censorship. Not all censorship is bad. Black Hat has a duty to censor these asshats.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by seren »

andybak wrote: post #128
seren wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another page on achievement from the same group. https://resonance.is/resonance-academy-faculty/ Including Mr. Apollo After having a vision of the Universe as a fractal hologram at the age of 15, he extensively studied a wide variety of branches in theoretical astrophysics, completing major research papers on the potential interface between consciousness and the physics of space-time by the time he graduated High Sch…

His website is worth a look: https://www.adamapollo.com/ I'm going to sample a couple of his 27 albums. The cover art alone is a thing to behold. EDIT - I'm beginning to think we've got this all wrong. It's not a scam - it's a cult.

Found another one from the previous link for a more HN friendly topic, a social network.

https://core.network/

What is fascinating is that the partner organization are always referencing other organization in the same "network", so it looks impressive but it is always the same 10-15 people.

For example compare the team https://hiup.org/people/ with https://resonance.is/resonance-academy-faculty/ which is mostly the team of the Robert grant's company https://torustech.com/team/

And going down the rabbit hole, the Time AI trailer has some visual similarity to :

http://getconnected.resonance.is/#

A 2016 documentary pushed by Resonance Academy and Unify about all people being connected, which is also the mantra of torus tech (because obviously they are the same people...)

And if you look at the (paid) delegate program of the resonance academy (https://academy.resonance.is/), in the list of module down the page, you'll find Robert Grant and Adam Apollo.

Here is the module from Robert Grant: https://academy.resonance.is/language-of-light/

>This course attempts to unlock the mysteries of science and esoterica from a wholistic perspective, combining history and ancient sites, ageless symbology, polymathic philosophy, biology, musical theory and alchemy.

>We also explore the practical application of these mathematical discoveries and how they can be utilized along with hertz EMGR (Electro-Magneto-Gravito-Radiativity) to better understand time, the Inverse Square Law, biology, DNA genotypic and phenotypic expression, vacuum energy and matter transmutation.

So it is all circular referencing, but honestly this is kinda fascinating.

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Post by mxuribe »

RL_Quine wrote: post #109
whymauri wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely confused here... some audio equipment does actually sound better than other audio equipment. Are you referring to snake oil audio cable salesmen?

"Audiophiles" are generally associated with not high end audio equipment at absurd costs and no reasoning. Oxygen free copper cabling, making sure your cables are isolated from the floor on little stands to reduce the vibration they absorb, "burning in" amplifiers for thousands of hours to improve the flavor of the output in a supposedly perceptible way. Many behaviors with the consistency of rubbing deer blood on yo…

> ...rubbing deer blood on your car hood to give it bloodlust, and therefor extra speed.

I've never heard this one; brilliantly funny!!

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Post by DonHopkins »

RL_Quine wrote: post #12
p1esk wrote: post #9

I also suspect the guy (Robert Grant) is a conman, but whatever scheme he is running is quite elaborate: https://strathspeycrown.com/team Does anyone have an insight as to what their endgame is, and where their funding is coming from?

Having a team page like that is your first red flag. https://strathspeycrown.com/subsidiary-companies-investments... > "Strathspey Crown is a visionary portfolio of transformational businesses, focused on the most complex sectors of healthcare, energy, and technology." This seems to be the parent company, check out some of the goofy things they claim to been involved in. Quotes like "changing the paradigm", "the inte…

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