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Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#272This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
If this guy attempted suicide before, shouldn't there be a permanent camera affixed to his jail cell (beside having a guard watch him)? If that is the case then we should have the video footage of his suicide even if the guard slacked off?
Of course there should, it's common sense. That there is no such standard procedure seems unlikely to be accidental.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#273If you were in his position though why not just kill yourself off? At 66 there’s not much life left to live and what’s left is going to be pretty shitty anyway behind bars.
If I was his attorney, I would have advised he negotiate for a lighter sentence in exchange for cooperation around bringing others to justice. Standard practice. He could have gotten off with a light sentence and brought many others to justice. He’s literally done that before.
He was going to spend his life in prison this time. They couldn’t give him the death penalty so there was no deal to be made. Epstein was never going to talk, anyway.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#274This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
Why dismiss as conspiracy-minded those who raise the possibility of foul play?
People have been socially conditioned to do this - not necessarily intentionally, it may have just happened naturally, but this is how right thinking people are to behave.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#275This happened hours after the latest tranche of documents were made public, documents that named names. Unfortunately for this community, one of our MIT heros was on that list. Don't even know what to say.
Is there a link to the primary source? All I can find are news media articles
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#276It may be a good idea to watch out for cops and guards from that prison suddenly 'buying businesses', making other large and successful investments, receiving expensive gifts and/or gaining large amounts of wealth. My current theory is that Epstein had a bounty on his head and was killed by a cop or guard, it's often case that prison 'suicides' are in fact covers for police brutality gone too far, so I think this is…
> it's often case that prison 'suicides' are in fact covers for police brutality gone too far How often?
Are you implying that prison suicides are always genuine suicides?
Are you denying that police doesn't commit extreme brutality?
How can anyone give a number? Sure, one can give a number for suspicious cases but how can anyone say for sure that a given suicide was in fact a murder?
Can you always access the actual information regarding what happens in jail?
How often do you think Black people are mistreated by police? What are the actual numbers of black people being subjected to police brutality? If you cannot provide the actual numbers, does that mean it doesn't happen at all.
I am all for data but many times I feel like people ask for data just for the sake of derailing the otherwise meaningful discussion or because they're trying to be over smart.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#277I too believe this might be a conspiracy of some sort
But there is still a chance he committed suicide willingly. Perhaps he himself couldn't stand the upcoming revelations and bribed the guards or someone else to remove some of the restrictions so he can roam free enough to do the deed.
I read before,he has had a conviction at some point where he only served time on weekends and basically had cops dedicated to his "protection" who called him "Mr. Epstein" unlike they would a normal prisoner.
I just hate concluding with incomplete information at hand.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#278This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
We are basically presented with a potential conspiracy shoved in our faces and you are worried that people might see a conspiracy there. It’s not an absurd logic.
Definition of the word:
“an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.”
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suggest reading the book October Surprise by Gary Sick. Intelligence agencies don’t use competent people. Your understanding of the situation is incorrect, and is leading you to incorrect conclusions.
> I suggest reading the book October Surprise by Gary Sick. Intelligence agencies don’t use competent people. They use incompetent people who can be manipulated into believing they have common interests and competent people who believe in their own that they have common interests, but, yes, they often use incompetent people. The relevance of this observation is unclear, as it still presents no existing phenomenon tha…
Looking at Epstein’s life seems incredible.
It is so incredible it is beyond my understanding.
But you claim to understand it, which is also very much beyond me.
But you are right, more so than you think, I cannot provide a way for you to understand something I don’t understand.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
And wouldn't you know it? "Oops, camera malfunction. We'll investigate that, too..."
That's indeed what happened.
I believe you, but could you cite a source on there being a camera and it malfunctioning? Because damn, this is just getting truly impossible to believe it was just a suicide.