RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried • Hacker News Board

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by Nick_C » Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 1:37 AM UTC

Lagged2Death wrote: post #31

The implementation of RSS in Firefox was always an "ultra-lite" version that I doubt will be missed by any serious RSS enthusiasts. A full-featured RSS reader feels a lot like a mailing list, so I think it's appropriate to keep RSS in Thunderbird rather than Firefox. In some respects, a web-app RSS reader (like Bloglines or Google Reader) is better. You can access your feeds from any computer, the read/unread status…

> A full-featured RSS reader feels a lot like a mailing list

Yep. I read all my RSS feeds in my mail client, claws mail. The feeds display on screen just like a mailing list. Plus you get the benefit that most email clients have such as deep searches, filtering, etc.

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by eitan » Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 7:23 AM UTC

I find myself more & more use blekko to replace my RSS feeds, maybe this is the future of feeds.

But then again maybe blekko doesn't have a future....

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by markg » Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 8:25 AM UTC

zandorg wrote: post #98

I think Dave Winer, basically inventor of RSS, would disagree.

Dave Winer did not invent RSS. You might want to know your history before spouting such nonsense.

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by tlianza » Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 12:13 PM UTC

Groxx wrote: post #75

tlianza wrote: post #54

Curious why none of the comments, nor the original article, mentions Internet Explorer. They've continued to add new features in this area ever since IE7. The icon is hidden now in IE9 (as are most of the icons... less browser chrome is fashionable) but I believe they still consider this a first-class feature. They are still the world's most popular browser... and presumably their users are less technical, so presuma…

> They are still the world's most popular browser Because of their history . Because users aren't technical. Because IE is bundled with Windows . And look how quickly they've been falling in use. Methinks they won't be the most popular for much longer, which is an incredible mark against their design decisions because of how fast and how far they've fallen from such complete domination.

The story is about RSS dying, and the author is upset that Mozilla is removing RSS features and Chrome never had any. Are you also arguing that IE is failing because they still have those features (possibly a bad design decision)?

In which case, what is it we're complaining about? Browsers that have RSS readers are bad and browsers that don't have RSS readers are bad?

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by Samuel_Michon » Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 10:15 PM UTC

Groxx wrote: post #158

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use the browser's RSS feature either. I only use Google Reader's web app to subscribe to feeds. When I want to read the articles, I do so on the go, with NetNewsWire or Reeder on iPhone or iPad. Before this blog post, I hadn't even noticed that Chrome doesn't have RSS built-in, so I won't miss it in Firefox 4 either. It would be nice if Mobile Safari had a button to add feeds to my Google Reader account, but…

Bookmarklet: javascript:var%20b=document.body;var%20GR________bookmarklet_domain='http://www.google.com';if(b&&!document.xmlVersion)%7Bvoid(z=document.createElement('script'));void(z.src='http://www.google.com/reader/ui/subscribe-bookmarklet.js');void(b.appendChild(z));%7Delse%7Blocation='http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/'+encodeURIComponent(location.href)%7D The link isn't always there, but it appears at times…

Works great, thanks for the tip!

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by Groxx » Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 12:56 AM UTC

tlianza wrote: post #194

Groxx wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are still the world's most popular browser Because of their history . Because users aren't technical. Because IE is bundled with Windows . And look how quickly they've been falling in use. Methinks they won't be the most popular for much longer, which is an incredible mark against their design decisions because of how fast and how far they've fallen from such complete domination.

The story is about RSS dying, and the author is upset that Mozilla is removing RSS features and Chrome never had any. Are you also arguing that IE is failing because they still have those features (possibly a bad design decision)? In which case, what is it we're complaining about? Browsers that have RSS readers are bad and browsers that don't have RSS readers are bad?

Not at all. I'm arguing that taking your design decisions from IE based on IE's popularity is illogical when looked at in context.

Re: RSS Is Dying, and You Should Be Very Worried

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Post by turbodog » Fri, Jan 07, 2011, 3:26 PM UTC

joeyh wrote: post #107

nakkiel wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I once wrote a Python script that would parse RSS feeds and write emails in a maildir (or whatever is supported by Python); one was then able to read news from an MUA which was comfortable (Mutt by then). I lost that script when I did a 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda' before quitting my last job and realizing 2 minutes later that I forgot to backup many useful scripts I wrote over the course of my year and half…

The canonical one is called "rss2email"

I'm the maintainer of the project and it's homepage is http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/