We (HN commenters) all know that the demonization of encryption is bullshit. What we need to do is to figure out how to communicate that effectively to the public.
Not all commenters "know" (agree with) that.
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Wars are still fought with such arms. It's important to remember that many of the civilians who are proponents of the 2nd Amendment were trained by the military and fought in recent wars; and understand full well what it means to prosecute a modern war.
This constant obsession about the US government potentially launching overt, ground-based military action against its own people makes me envision a doomsday prepper who invests tons of resources into a fallout shelter, but rides a motorcycle without a helmet or something. The risk assessment just doesn't make sense to me at all. Get with the times: our governments oppress and control us in ways that don't require op…
Given what happened in New Orleans, many aspects of prepping (the food and water and all that) are not that stupid. Only have to be without food or water or security once to be dead forever.
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The whole point of having guns is so that if somebody tries to take them away from you, you have the tools of preventing that. The police in Hong Kong would be a lot more respectful if the (massive, dense) crowd was armed with more than laser pointers. The riots in LA where Korean shop owners defended their property. Etc., etc. Hell there were violent protests in Ferguson, MO not long ago. "Gun Control" was originall…
> The police in Hong Kong would be a lot more respectful if the (massive, dense) crowd was armed with more than laser pointers This statement is laughable, yet terrifying in its naiveté. > "Gun Control" was originally just a mechanism to keep the (black, brown) population from owning guns; just a way of disarming the black/brown population. Look at the past laws, and current policing! The history of gun politics is i…
Yeah, terrifying for the CCP, but not for the people. "Disarm the populace" is authoritarianism 101. The IRA, Checnya, Afghanistan - armed and motivated populations are dangerous. Not sure how that's naivete; that's why it was written into the Constitution.
It isn't "a hint of racial bias" - gun control is directly racist, always has been. "Well it isn't now" doesn't hold much water.
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This constant obsession about the US government potentially launching overt, ground-based military action against its own people makes me envision a doomsday prepper who invests tons of resources into a fallout shelter, but rides a motorcycle without a helmet or something. The risk assessment just doesn't make sense to me at all. Get with the times: our governments oppress and control us in ways that don't require op…
Given what happened in New Orleans, many aspects of prepping (the food and water and all that) are not that stupid. Only have to be without food or water or security once to be dead forever.
I would consider starving in New Orleans despite the resources of the US Military being available government oppression.
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You're thinking of mass shooting 2019/247, not mass shooting 2019/248. (Yes, we're up to more than one a day on average now) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_th...
This list gives me shivers...is the USA a scary, uncivilized country?
New York didn't even had a (public) police force until the 1850's, with 300k inhabitants. And there was literal brawling between competing police forces for during the first years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_New_York_City_P...
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As John Oliver have said in his interview with Snowden - people care about their dick pics being seen by the Govt. Push that angle
No.
Why not?
Is it somehow morally reprehensible? Because it would be ineffective? Do you want the govt to see your dick pics?
I'm curious about about your flat out rejection of this proposal.
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#367We (HN commenters) all know that the demonization of encryption is bullshit. What we need to do is to figure out how to communicate that effectively to the public.
I don’t know, has HN commenters solved demonization of outgroups?
You can’t explain it in one sentence, you have to explain cultures, subcultures, how each subculture interacts, etc.
It won’t matter anyway, it impacts the average person in the most indirect way imaginable.
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We don't have to take anyone's guns. Even if we made some currently legal weapons illegal, just grandfather current ones and let attrition weed them out. I'll accept a solution that takes 30 years over nothing.
The whole point of having guns is so that if somebody tries to take them away from you, you have the tools of preventing that. The police in Hong Kong would be a lot more respectful if the (massive, dense) crowd was armed with more than laser pointers. The riots in LA where Korean shop owners defended their property. Etc., etc. Hell there were violent protests in Ferguson, MO not long ago. "Gun Control" was originall…
China showed their willingness to deploy armored vehicles in civilian areas 30 years ago. If citizens had guns there'd be a bloodbath right now.
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#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
The whole point of having guns is so that if somebody tries to take them away from you, you have the tools of preventing that. The police in Hong Kong would be a lot more respectful if the (massive, dense) crowd was armed with more than laser pointers. The riots in LA where Korean shop owners defended their property. Etc., etc. Hell there were violent protests in Ferguson, MO not long ago. "Gun Control" was originall…
China showed their willingness to deploy armored vehicles in civilian areas 30 years ago. If citizens had guns there'd be a bloodbath right now.
Would the Tiananmen Square protesters have rather had guns, or not?
They were all cool with being ground up by armored vehicles and washed down storm drains?
Would the Jews of the Holocaust have rather had guns, or not?
By not having guns, you're not preventing a bloodbath - you're delaying it, and ensuring that you're on the losing side 100% of the time.
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#370We (HN commenters) all know that the demonization of encryption is bullshit. What we need to do is to figure out how to communicate that effectively to the public.
"Authorities want every house in America to be remodeled to include a second front door with a special government lock. They promise to only give police departments, contractors, and/or federal employees access to the single master key that can be instantly and easily copied and shared over the internet and opens every single house and business in America. Even if we trusted the government with this power, how could…
This exists and has long been required by fire code for most commercial buildings. https://www.knoxbox.com/fire-departments