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Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

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Fibromyalgia And idiopathic disease are not terms for "go away". They mean "I've tried what I can think of and theres no further testing we can recommend" Notably, a positive punch biopsy for small fiber neuropathy IS diagnosis with treatment that works fairly well. Ideopathic simply means that the base cause is unknown. The author need to educate themselves further about what doctors can do and what words mean. He h…

I'm sorry, but at least in the UK and on the NHS, fibromyalgia is very much a diagnosis of "go away".

I had to battle with my neurologist to get a skin biopsy, despite very clear symptoms of neuropathy, and a very clear trigger.

He eventually ordered it, very reluctantly. It came back normal, which for him for conclusive proof that I had fibromyalgia.

When I asked him about fibromyalgia, it was immediately clear that he literally had no idea about it - when I said that it disproportionately affected women, he actually laughed at the idea. When I said I didn't have pain in the tender points associated with fibromyalgia, and I didn't have flare-ups that are typical of fibromyalgia, he just filibustered. It really was his way of saying "I dunno, you're probably a wacko, go away".

I did a lot of reading of papers, and was convinced I did have small fiber neuropathy. I requested a copy of my medical notes and discovered 2 very interesting things - firstly, the neurologist was indeed convinced it was all in my head, that no physical cause would ever be found, and he'd influenced and biased other medical professionals I was involved with by telling them this at every opportunity. Secondly, the biopsy sample had been taken from the wrong place, and had later gone missing - there were no results!

I insisted on another biopsy, and sure enough it found small fiber neuropathy in my arms and legs. He didn't even apologise for what I see as clear negligence.

In the author's case, he had a biopsy diagnosis from the US, but said the UK docs didn't accept that, and he doesn't even have any pain meds - he absolutely should outright dismiss that in anger!

My advice for the author: you're in a profession where you can afford to self-fund private healthcare - put aside principles and just pay to see a private neurologist. If needed, they can repeat a skin biopsy, and you will absolutely not be left without any pain meds.

For neuropathic pain, the best pain meds for most people are Gabapentin, Pregbalin and tricyclics. If those don't work, SNRIs such as duloxetine, might. Opioid medications don't work well on neuropathic pain for the majority of people, but can help some, especially if nothing else works. Sativex (basically a cannabis tincture) also helps some people, and is very easy to get privately now if you have proven SFN (let me know if you want to try this and I'll tell you where to get it).

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

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post #53
post #46

Fibromyalgia And idiopathic disease are not terms for "go away". They mean "I've tried what I can think of and theres no further testing we can recommend" Notably, a positive punch biopsy for small fiber neuropathy IS diagnosis with treatment that works fairly well. Ideopathic simply means that the base cause is unknown. The author need to educate themselves further about what doctors can do and what words mean. He h…

> Notably, a positive punch biopsy for small fiber neuropathy IS diagnosis with treatment that works fairly well. Ideopathic simply means that the base cause is unknown. What is the treatment you claim? Wikipedia claims that "Treatment [for small fiber neuropathy] is based on the underlying cause, if any." Given that idiopathic means having an unknown cause, that seems to contradict your statement.

SFN sufferer here, can confirm that there is no treatment. There are some promising research chemicals, but we are a long, long way from seeing anything available.

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

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Psychosomatic diseases are a real thing though. You can have real physical symptoms. Last year my muscles started to « shake », with lots of skipped heartbeats (extrasystoles). After all the checks the doctors said the classic « it’s stress ». Well then I took a real break and embarked on multi month road trip on another continent. The symptoms disappeared nearly overnight. I think I experienced a burnout but it mani…

Regardless of whether you think the advice from the GP is sound or not, the best way to get a doctor to listen to you is to listen to (and follow) their advice first. Cursing at them out of frustration only makes your situation worse.

The GP didn't give 'advice' so much as they said "your medical records? ha, right... you're crazy." And then proceeded to shut down all avenues to further care and pain management.

Honestly it sounds like the GP is so cynical about the hot garbage they perceive UK healthcare to be that they basically said "please go away so that our utter inability to help you doesn't weigh on my conscience any further... oh thank god you invoked the loophole that lets me kick you out now and pretend it's all really your fault"

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Psychosomatic diseases are a real thing though. You can have real physical symptoms. Last year my muscles started to « shake », with lots of skipped heartbeats (extrasystoles). After all the checks the doctors said the classic « it’s stress ». Well then I took a real break and embarked on multi month road trip on another continent. The symptoms disappeared nearly overnight. I think I experienced a burnout but it mani…

Regardless of whether you think the advice from the GP is sound or not, the best way to get a doctor to listen to you is to listen to (and follow) their advice first. Cursing at them out of frustration only makes your situation worse.

>Regardless of whether you think the advice from the GP is sound or not, the best way to get a doctor to listen to you is to listen to (and follow) their advice first.

It's been shown that it's very hard to prove that you're not mentally ill if you're labeled as such. Getting treatment just means you'll be put on essentially random psychiatric medications (which have their own side-effects) or have to spend years in useless therapy (while your actual disease may progress).

If a doctor isn't willing to do the proper testing or evaluation the first time then they won't do it a second time either but just claim you haven't gotten the right psychiatric treatment yet.

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

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I got RSI like 15 years ago. The only thing that's worked for me long term when I'm actually doing coding all day long, is a combination of: a) a keyboard holder below the desk - something similar to https://kw.pricenacdn.com/files/images/products/original/14/... - I got mine from IKEA a long time ago - unfortunately they discontinued that product - the key thing here is the get the keyboard as close to your legs as…

My resolution has been to use a trackball. Literally resolved all my issues. Switched to a mouse for a while, 2 months in RSI came back. Trackball it is.

I guess you primarily point, rather than type?

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

#96
post #74

I have a very similar issue. I tried to use Vocola and it worked for a while but then i kept straining my voice. I recently had to quit school because I've strained my voice and hands too many times to count. But its not just my hands anymore. Anything that involves any amount of real effort for more than a few minutes usually ends up injuring a muscle group. Has anyone successfully come back from something like this…

I was in a similar boat a few years ago. I had to leave my job a because of an RSI—it was devastating to lose both my career and my passion to this injury. My solution was to switch to coding by voice, and I've been doing that full-time for the past year. I did notice some voice strain at the start, but it went away after I started speaking more naturally (i.e., pretending I'm talking to a person and not a computer).…

Thanks for your comment. I'll download this and try it out. I like the idea that your app is opinionated. It shortens the amount of time of setup.

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

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post #28
post #25

This story resonates. A few years back I was dealing with mild pain while coding. I stupidly ignored it for months as it got significantly worse, to the point where it became impossible to type for extended periods. I tried lots of things. My doctor did a nerve conduction study, which apparently ruled out carpal tunnel syndrome, but he wasn't much help beyond that. He gave me some straps that I slept in and wore arou…

Try doing some rock climbing either outdoors or at the rock gym. Fixed my hand pain real quick.

An alternative grip exercise that can be done anywhere and avoids the injury risk of climbing, is to alternately make a fist and then open your hands as far as possible while spreading your fingers apart. Start slowly and gradually increase the speed and repetitions. Be sure to have at least one rest day between sessions (I actually think two rest days is better). After a couple of weeks, you should be able to do it extremely quickly for hundreds of reps until your forearms are completely fatigued. In each workout, try to open and close your hand more quickly than the previous workout. Make your fingers look like a blur of motion. It is surprising how completely fatiguing this can be after just a few minutes.

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

#98
post #74

I have a very similar issue. I tried to use Vocola and it worked for a while but then i kept straining my voice. I recently had to quit school because I've strained my voice and hands too many times to count. But its not just my hands anymore. Anything that involves any amount of real effort for more than a few minutes usually ends up injuring a muscle group. Has anyone successfully come back from something like this…

What, if any, strength building activities do you do that target any area of your body?

I try walking 5 minutes a couple times a day which is ok. I tried doing DDP yoga, the routine you do in your bed, and i got hurt the first time. it took months for my abdomen to stop hurting.

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

#99
post #75

Take the time and watch the talk linked in the article, it’s pretty darn impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3JeYfBTcY

Tavis Rudd's Using Python to Code by Voice [0] is also interesting.

Looking up that URL, I came across the more recent Coding by Voice with Dragonfly [1]. Haven't seen that one yet, but just quickly skimmed through. Unfortunately the live demos are silent (you can't hear speaker Boudewijn Aasman talk to the computer), but it seems worth checking out if you're interested in setting up some recent voice recognition software with your own custom voice command syntax.

[0] https://youtu.be/8SkdfdXWYaI [1] https://youtu.be/P5DCDiCv4TE

Re: What Does a Coder Do If They Can't Type?

#100
post #25

This story resonates. A few years back I was dealing with mild pain while coding. I stupidly ignored it for months as it got significantly worse, to the point where it became impossible to type for extended periods. I tried lots of things. My doctor did a nerve conduction study, which apparently ruled out carpal tunnel syndrome, but he wasn't much help beyond that. He gave me some straps that I slept in and wore arou…

I don't have pain in my hands, but I get severe back pain from time to time. It's difficult to sit or stand (or be in any position, really) for a few days at a time.

I can do some things just fine, like type, but I certainly can't concentrate long enough to do any programming tasks because the pain is so distracting.

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