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Wow. I don’t think I have seen a situation before where Occam’s razor doesn’t help writing off the conspiracy. It seems harder in this case to believe someone in a jail cell on suicide watch kills themselves than to believe that it was arranged (that is, at least “allowed”). It’s suspiciously sloppy.
People "on suicide watch" die all the time. It's not super rare.
Epstein’s case shows why all those “Pizzagate” and other similar conspiracy theories seemed believable, no matter if they were fake. The current political crisis is the crisis of trust.
That "political crisis of trust" is not entirely organic, and mentioning Pizzagate is an example of why that shouldn't be taken at face value. Pizzagate wasn't just a meme, it was an orchestrated attempt to poison the well of support for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic campaign. People in this very thread are still trying to push a connection between Epstein, Pizzagate and the Clintons.
I mention this because whenever this "crisis of trust" is brought up, inevitably the blame for it is placed either entirely on "the left," "the (left-wing) media establishment" or (probably leftist) politicians... in other words, its scope and nature is almost always framed in a way that benefits a specific political narrative.
This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
I am not a lawyer, but @klasfeldreports on twitter quotes an unnamed legal source who says: "Background: An important note after Epstein's death: no one else will have standing to challenge the search warrant on his house. Everything will be admissible against any other defendant without possibility of a motion to suppress." So maybe this will be a net good for justice?
It would have been admissible against anyone but Epstein even if Epstein hadn't died, and further warrants derived from information discovered through it (including reseizure of the same evidence under a new warrant) wouldn't, as I understand it, be precluded unless it was to be used against Epstein, all for the same reason that the right to object dies with Epstein, so it does nothing for justice except preventing any Constitutional violation from even being recognized, which is a net loss, not a win.
Wow. I don’t think I have seen a situation before where Occam’s razor doesn’t help writing off the conspiracy. It seems harder in this case to believe someone in a jail cell on suicide watch kills themselves than to believe that it was arranged (that is, at least “allowed”). It’s suspiciously sloppy.
People "on suicide watch" die all the time. It's not super rare.
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Your comment was dead. I vouched for it, because I think the point you're making is a valid one. I'll just note that you come across very combative. HN is intended to be an environment of thoughtful and substantive discussion. I would recommend that you peruse the guidelines[0] for discussion. Some specific feedback on what I interpret as combative, and what I expect led to the killing downvotes: The first paragraph…
And to top the irony this comment is downvoted as well. I know the guidelines say something about not talking about voting but there are times when I guess it would be good to understand the spirit of that rule instead of the letter.
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I am not a lawyer, but @klasfeldreports on twitter quotes an unnamed legal source who says: "Background: An important note after Epstein's death: no one else will have standing to challenge the search warrant on his house. Everything will be admissible against any other defendant without possibility of a motion to suppress." So maybe this will be a net good for justice?
> So maybe this will be a net good for justice? It would have been admissible against anyone but Epstein even if Epstein hadn't died, and further warrants derived from information discovered through it (including reseizure of the same evidence under a new warrant) wouldn't, as I understand it, be precluded unless it was to be used against Epstein, all for the same reason that the right to object dies with Epstein, so…
Epstein’s case shows why all those “Pizzagate” and other similar conspiracy theories seemed believable, no matter if they were fake. The current political crisis is the crisis of trust.
I want to reply to you before your comment probably gets flagged. That "political crisis of trust" is not entirely organic, and mentioning Pizzagate is an example of why that shouldn't be taken at face value. Pizzagate wasn't just a meme, it was an orchestrated attempt to poison the well of support for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic campaign. People in this very thread are still trying to push a connection betwee…
Any real controversy will be amplified, inflated and exploited by foreign interests these days.
Anyone with a brain would see that allowing something like the royal family to exist is a propagation of the abhorrent notion that some people are born better than others.
Prince Andrew goes palling around with a convicted paedophile and we are far too stupid to see that it propagates a system where those born to privilege and with connections to wealth and power can do anything they want.
We don't just let them get away with it; we idolize them for it.
We are simply fools.
What a waste. May none mourn this creature's passing, but his particular case represented too many valuable opportunities for him to be allowed to die before trial. Whoever allowed enough of a lapse in his suicide watch that the concept of him being "found" at all even makes sense should be fired and sued for gross malfeasance.
Even then they would only be getting another little guy, and not the malicious party.
He should have gotten that horrible 24-hour naked suicide watch thing that Manning got, all the way until trial. Certainly he demonstrated better need for it.