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The Taycan has done sub-8 minutes at the Nürburgring Nordscheleife according to Mark Webber ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k ). What's the Model 3's best time?
Sub 8 minutes? I wonder where they started and ended their stopwatch also what kind of tires used. Edited://
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The performance version of the Model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and by all reports it’s an excellent track car.
The Taycan has done sub-8 minutes at the Nürburgring Nordscheleife according to Mark Webber ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k ). What's the Model 3's best time?
Here's a video of a Model 3 doing around 9 minutes per lap without track mode and during Turistenfahrt at the Nürburgring : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3IHb8RFV_g
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The performance version of the Model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and by all reports it’s an excellent track car.
Can you point to some of these reports? I can't seem to find any official times for major tracks. But it looks like the model 3 is right in line with some competition, like the BMW M3.
It has a two-speed transmission, which should help with high-speed performance. https://insideevs.com/news/343827/porsche-taycan-2-speed-rea... But one of the advantages of an electric car for me is the possibility of no (variable) transmission. I don't want clutches that are constantly wearing down as I drive. For me this is not about money or maintenance headaches, but about elegance.
While I agree the simplicity of a single speed no-clutch electric drivetrain is appealing, I don't think that should preclude using different systems if this means optimum performance overall.
Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.
If you try to drive a Tesla Model S like a performance car it just overheats: https://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-tha... https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-a-tesla-model-s-can-do-aroun... Here's a Model S losing to a Nissan Leaf over 14 laps: https://insideevs.com/news/359903/video-nissan-leaf-beats-te... Porsche doesn't want to be in line with that.
Tesla's ludicrous launch is a party trick. It produces a number to prop up a marketing blurb. "Fastest production car ever!" Tesla has been doing the same sort of thing with "Safest car ever!" to the point that NHTSA recently sent Tesla a cease-and-desist letter over misleading statements about the Model 3′s safety rating.
The devil really is in the details though. A properly engineered drivetrain will be able to sustain its launches over several back-to-back activations. This is precisely what the Porsche team has accomplished. The machines they ship will hit a number, and then they will hit that number again, and again, and again, and again. And that won't fade. It won't destroy the battery. It won't get nerfed with an over-the-air update a couple of months after hitting the market.
This is what automotive engineering excellence looks like, and it's great to finally see it in an electric vehicle.
Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.
Because 0-60 times are just one facet of performance. Why aren't Tesla dominating Formula E? Or hill climbing?
Tesla seems to have played their cards very well.
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Because 0-60 times are just one facet of performance. Why aren't Tesla dominating Formula E? Or hill climbing?
Most people buying these things know the only performance thing they'll ever do with the car is a straight launch from a stop at an intersection. They won't ever be needing high-G turning ability on a city street, nor any other maneuver that would be too dangerous on a city street with pedestrians and bicyclists around. Tesla seems to have played their cards very well.
It has a two-speed transmission, which should help with high-speed performance. https://insideevs.com/news/343827/porsche-taycan-2-speed-rea... But one of the advantages of an electric car for me is the possibility of no (variable) transmission. I don't want clutches that are constantly wearing down as I drive. For me this is not about money or maintenance headaches, but about elegance.
If you’ve ever driven an electric performance car one of the most disappointing things is comparing 30–90 vs 0-60. Arguably the latter is more important because the typical on-ramp is generally 30 mph and highway traffic around me is traveling at 75+
Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.