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Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by tyfon »

lm28469 wrote: post #7
tyfon wrote: post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

Let's wait for the price, real world performances and see how the fit and finish is. As good as the 2013 model S was it was far from perfect and suffered from many issues.

Yeah there was enough issues with it for me to go for a toyota instead at the time, especially with rattling in the windows.

I'm also really curious as to it's consumption at 100-120 km/h (60-75 mph). That and the internal space was what struck down the etron and i-pace for me.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by mikeash »

clouddrover wrote: post #10
vvanders wrote: post #9

Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

If you try to drive a Tesla Model S like a performance car it just overheats: https://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-tha... https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-a-tesla-model-s-can-do-aroun... Here's a Model S losing to a Nissan Leaf over 14 laps: https://insideevs.com/news/359903/video-nissan-leaf-beats-te... Porsche doesn't want to be in line with that.

The performance version of the Model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and by all reports it’s an excellent track car.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by navigatesol »

vvanders wrote: post #9

Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

Because 0-60 times are just one facet of performance. Why aren't Tesla dominating Formula E? Or hill climbing?

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by kszxgz »

vvanders wrote: post #9

Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

My impression is that German car brands usually do not focus as much on 0-60 accelaration as much as Tesla does. Especially for a Porsche, it's more about handling than drag race performance.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by tyfon »

lazyjones wrote: post #6
tyfon wrote: post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

> it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace. That's not really hard... Both these models aren't really selling well.

They're selling better than the model x in Norway so far in 2019. For me personally they have too short range and too little space but there is a certain segment that want a "real" electric car made by an encumbered manufacturer. I used to be one of them until I saw the specs of the i-pace and etron.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by clouddrover »

mikeash wrote: post #12
clouddrover wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you try to drive a Tesla Model S like a performance car it just overheats: https://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-tha... https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-a-tesla-model-s-can-do-aroun... Here's a Model S losing to a Nissan Leaf over 14 laps: https://insideevs.com/news/359903/video-nissan-leaf-beats-te... Porsche doesn't want to be in line with that.

The performance version of the Model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and by all reports it’s an excellent track car.

The Taycan has done sub-8 minutes at the Nürburgring Nordscheleife according to Mark Webber (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k).

What's the Model 3's best time?

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by quattrofan »

vvanders wrote: post #9

Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

Did you pay attention? They said it's about repeatability and not reducing battery of power train life like Tesla does.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by navigatesol »

mikeash wrote: post #12
clouddrover wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you try to drive a Tesla Model S like a performance car it just overheats: https://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-tha... https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-a-tesla-model-s-can-do-aroun... Here's a Model S losing to a Nissan Leaf over 14 laps: https://insideevs.com/news/359903/video-nissan-leaf-beats-te... Porsche doesn't want to be in line with that.

The performance version of the Model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and by all reports it’s an excellent track car.

Can you point to some of these reports? I can't seem to find any official times for major tracks. But it looks like the model 3 is right in line with some competition, like the BMW M3.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by Grazester »

clouddrover wrote: post #16
mikeash wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The performance version of the Model 3 does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and by all reports it’s an excellent track car.

The Taycan has done sub-8 minutes at the Nürburgring Nordscheleife according to Mark Webber ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k ). What's the Model 3's best time?

Sub 8 minutes? I wonder where they started and ended their stopwatch also what kind of tires used.

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Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Post by navigatesol »

lazyjones wrote: post #6
tyfon wrote: post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

> it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace. That's not really hard... Both these models aren't really selling well.

Can you show your data? I think both those models are out selling S/X.
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