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Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

#52

Why was he not on suicide watch considering he just had a failed suicide attempt? Either that's gross incompetence or something more sinister

"Suicide watch" doesn't have a fixed meaning.

People on 15 minute observations can and do die by suicide.

If someone is at risk and you think obs are going to help (they don't always help, they can make things worse) you need to have them under full time obs.

But even then how close does that need to be? Two staff members within arms reach 24 hours of the day, including during eat, bathing, defecating?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To play devils advocate; who doesn’t want to protect themselves and that which they’ve worked for? From the poor who’ve worked hard for the past year to save up for engine for the late 70s truck. To the middle(ish) class who’ve worked hard for their first purchased two bedroom home. To the middle upperclass who’ve gone on a vacation to Branson Missouri. To pretty much everyone with children. To the ultra wealthy that…

Ok but by looking out for yourself it’s typically and socially accepted and expected you’re not going to do grievous direct harm to other parties.

To the ultra-rich, "other parties" are other ultra-rich people. Everyone else is just an insect. I mean that in the most visceral way possible, the ultra-rich view us with contempt.

edit: This is why Bernie Madoff went to prison and why basically no one went to jail over the 2008 GFC. Madoff stole from his own social class, which is a big no-no.

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