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Porsche Taycan [video]

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Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s.

I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years.

I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace.

However looking at it... it reminds me of a frog, so maybe not..

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

> I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s.

They're aimed at different things. The Taycan is a performance car, the Model S isn't. The Model S is uncompetitive with the Taycan around a race track, for example.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

> I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. They're aimed at different things. The Taycan is a performance car, the Model S isn't. The Model S is uncompetitive with the Taycan around a race track, for example.

Also why the big screen probably isn’t a priority while hooning around a track!

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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It has a two-speed transmission, which should help with high-speed performance. https://insideevs.com/news/343827/porsche-taycan-2-speed-rea...

But one of the advantages of an electric car for me is the possibility of no (variable) transmission. I don't want clutches that are constantly wearing down as I drive. For me this is not about money or maintenance headaches, but about elegance.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

> it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace.

That's not really hard... Both these models aren't really selling well.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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post #2

I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s. I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years. I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it mi…

Let's wait for the price, real world performances and see how the fit and finish is. As good as the 2013 model S was it was far from perfect and suffered from many issues.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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It has a two-speed transmission, which should help with high-speed performance. https://insideevs.com/news/343827/porsche-taycan-2-speed-rea... But one of the advantages of an electric car for me is the possibility of no (variable) transmission. I don't want clutches that are constantly wearing down as I drive. For me this is not about money or maintenance headaches, but about elegance.

you only need clutches when you're stopped - to engage an moving/idling motor to stationary drive wheels.

Electric cars don't need clutches because their motors stop too

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Glad to see competition finally coming around.

That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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post #9

Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

If you try to drive a Tesla Model S like a performance car it just overheats:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-tha...

https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-a-tesla-model-s-can-do-aroun...

Here's a Model S losing to a Nissan Leaf over 14 laps:

https://insideevs.com/news/359903/video-nissan-leaf-beats-te...

Porsche doesn't want to be in line with that.

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