This happened hours after the latest tranche of documents were made public, documents that named names. Unfortunately for this community, one of our MIT heros was on that list. Don't even know what to say.
Who was that MIT hero? Do you have a source? Thanks.
Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#42Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#43It's an interesting question whether a person in his position has a right to commit suicide.
No, not really, that doesn't seem like an interesting question at all. Can you convince me otherwise? It seems obvious to me that while a right to commit suicide might exist typically, somebody imprisoned is obviously not entitled to it. We restrict many rights when we imprison people, and I see no reason why the 'right to commit suicide' should not be one of them. Allowing such a man to kill himself denies his victims, some of whom may yet be unidentified, to opportunity to resolve the matter in a satisfactory way.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#44Monsters can occur anywhere. What makes a real difference is a community’s capacity for looking the other way when an individual sheds their personhood in the perpetration of heinous acts. Look at religious organizations (Catholic Church, Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn, ...) and in the sports world (USA Gymnastics) and in financial/political circles.
Now more than ever, if you see something - say something. No matter how esteemed a person may be within their field of activity, monstrous acts demand the swiftest of retribution.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well people in that sphere were already predicting he’d “commit” suicide to avoid getting powerful people ensnared.
What I mean is that I don't think that's a conspiracy, it's reasonable to think that in the world elites they look after each other
If you believe that when the elite "look after each other" they abuse their power in illegal and unethical ways, then technically you're a "conspiracy theorist" along with the vast majority of the population.
Edit: And the story has been removed from the HN front page, despite being one of the most popular...
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
To play devils advocate; who doesn’t want to protect themselves and that which they’ve worked for? From the poor who’ve worked hard for the past year to save up for engine for the late 70s truck. To the middle(ish) class who’ve worked hard for their first purchased two bedroom home. To the middle upperclass who’ve gone on a vacation to Branson Missouri. To pretty much everyone with children. To the ultra wealthy that…
Ok but by looking out for yourself it’s typically and socially accepted and expected you’re not going to do grievous direct harm to other parties.
That's the ideal and the law, but in practice it's not that uncommon for people do grievous direct harm to other parties, when they think they can get away with it.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
>This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. How is that a conspiracy?
Well people in that sphere were already predicting he’d “commit” suicide to avoid getting powerful people ensnared.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#48This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
There’s more than one angle to conspiracy theories as well. Was it a “hit” by the powerful protecting themselves or, did he have a dead man’s switch on incriminating others and it’s a fake and he’s been broken out of prison?
There’s so much to work with here that it’s going to go on for years.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#49This happened hours after the latest tranche of documents were made public, documents that named names. Unfortunately for this community, one of our MIT heros was on that list. Don't even know what to say.
Source please... I want to see the names, ALL of the names.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I mean is that I don't think that's a conspiracy, it's reasonable to think that in the world elites they look after each other
If you believe that when the elite "look after each other" they abuse their power in illegal and unethical ways, then technically you're a "conspiracy theorist" along with the vast majority of the population. Edit: And the story has been removed from the HN front page, despite being one of the most popular...
Well, it just happened.