Hate to be that guy but anyone know any reason why articles about Marvin Minsky and Jefferey Epstein would not be showing up today on HN? Seems odd to me.
Is it an article that's relevant to technology or the general ethos of HN? My guess is no.
FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone
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#12“It is prudent to anticipate that a major incident may well occur at any time that will galvanize public opinion on these issues ... Whether we end up with legislation or not, the best course for everyone involved is to work soberly and in good faith together to craft appropriate solutions, rather than have outcomes dictated during a crisis.” -- AG William Barr, July 23 2019
"Never let a good crisis go to waste" -- Winston Churchill, probably
Re: FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
If there were clear and transparent -- like public -- procedures -- by which the FBI could get into an iPhone, it might be alright. Say that if they broke into the iPhone it was indelibly marked -- it flipped a flag in the hardware and there was no way to disguise it, and the OS would broadcast it over the web and over BlueTooth and WiFi, making it easy to provide tools that caught the message and published it. Then…
No, it's not alright. I'm sick of giving up freedoms every time some violent psycho/group of psychos decided to commit more violence.
Other than all the other psychos who kill a lot more people but are considered legitimate in their doings... We need more access to their information, drug companies making opiates that kill tens of thousands, various other corporations, various world leaders... etc. If we can tolerate them, then we can tolerate your run of the mill psycho doing things now and then and usually immediately being stopped from doing anything else.
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#14Of course. The FBI always claims this shit because in their opinion no longer having access to everyone’s data is “going dark” and throughout history they have always had complete access to everyone and everything.
They don’t stand here saying “we need to deal with white supremecists”, they say “we need the ability to violate everyone’s rights”. They already have a public track record of mass illegal surveillance.
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#15dead people is... the worst... arguing that we should give up freedom is bad... what, do we do here?
One could argue that it's harder to make an institution that has the power to access secured devices behave than it is to change society to have fewer mass murderers. To quote the onion: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
It didn't used to regularly happen, despite the high availability of guns.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
One could argue that it's harder to make an institution that has the power to access secured devices behave than it is to change society to have fewer mass murderers. To quote the onion: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
Yeah. Let’s take away a specifically enumerated constitutional right to better protect, maybe, one that appears only in the “penumbras” of the document.
I honestly don't know what your position is because the right against unreasonable searches and seizures and right to arms are both specifically enumerated in the fourth and second amendments, respectively.
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#17dead people is... the worst... arguing that we should give up freedom is bad... what, do we do here?
Freedom is more important.
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#18dead people is... the worst... arguing that we should give up freedom is bad... what, do we do here?
It's not even about freedom. The NSA and FBI would love to get legislation in place that weakens encryption, but the fact of the matter is you can't weaken encryption without breaking it.
Your options are basically to either force everyone to use short keys that can be brute forced by the NSA (and anyone with cash to throw at AWS) or to set up a trusted-third party to store everyone's private keys and then either enforce long key lives or come up with a mechanism to transport the keys to the third party as old ones expire.
Weakening encryption would lead to massive issues for both corporate and personal security. What's worse is there wouldn't be anything stopping anyone from rolling their own crypto without the NSA's permission (it's literally just math), so it'd be business as usual for terrorists and black-hats.
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#19dead people is... the worst... arguing that we should give up freedom is bad... what, do we do here?
If there were clear and transparent -- like public -- procedures -- by which the FBI could get into an iPhone, it might be alright. Say that if they broke into the iPhone it was indelibly marked -- it flipped a flag in the hardware and there was no way to disguise it, and the OS would broadcast it over the web and over BlueTooth and WiFi, making it easy to provide tools that caught the message and published it. Then…
No thanks. I live in america and the fifth amendment means I am never under obligation to incriminate myself.
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#20Why is it important that the FBI can access that person’s phone?