‘No One Saw a Thing’: When a Midwest Town Banded Together to Kill the Town Bully

Post by wtdata » Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 10:57 PM UTC

LyndsySimon wrote: post #160

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> In my opinion, minorities in particular have reason to arm themselves and to be prepared to defend themselves if necessary. That's an interesting take, since minorities commit - by very, very far - the greatest amount of violent crimes per capita in the USA. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

Yes, and if anything that supports my position. Minorities are statistically more likely to be both perpetrators and victims of violent crime. Members of those communities therefore are more likely than non-members to have a legitimate need to defend themselves.

Post by chrisco255 » Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 11:01 PM UTC

vinceguidry wrote: post #113

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Grotesque but the fact is that these public square hangings were done since medieval times and probably earlier. From the Salem witch trials to the San Francisco vigilantes, it happened in many town squares, and it was believed to be justified: https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ah-lynching/2/

These weren't all that long ago. Someone claimed that there are people walking around today that went to one of these events. I couldn't corroborate that claim but we're talking less than a hundred years ago. While the Middle ages were some 5-900 years ago. Also what makes these public killings so notable is the fact that it was a deliberate effort of an entire society to instill fear into a minority. That you don't…

Post by jcims » Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 11:03 PM UTC

persistent wrote: post #151

jcims wrote: post #29

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This is my prevailing theory as to why minority enclaves in metropolitan areas tend to have higher violent crime. It's not socioeconomic as much as it is folks being forced to mete out justice on their own.

Are you sure this isn't just a bias of yours? Urban areas in the United States have a lower rate of fatal injuries due to violence than do rural areas. Perhaps this is not what you meant by "violent crime"? I know the output of these reports is difficult to interpret but see [1]. The top decile of per-capita violent deaths are rural counties, not urban ones. 1: https://wisqars.cdc.gov:8443/cdcMapFramework/output/m588…

Post by cmurf » Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 11:06 PM UTC

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To be clear, community murders like this happened all the time in US history. The thing that makes this special is that the man killed was white and actually guilty of crimes.

100% true. This is the history of lynching in America. Community murders where nobody saw a thing, and the justification was always that the murdered person was a degenerate who would not receive what the town thinks would be adequate punishment under the law.

Post by Causality1 » Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 11:07 PM UTC

persistent wrote: post #151

jcims wrote: post #29

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This is my prevailing theory as to why minority enclaves in metropolitan areas tend to have higher violent crime. It's not socioeconomic as much as it is folks being forced to mete out justice on their own.

Are you sure this isn't just a bias of yours? Urban areas in the United States have a lower rate of fatal injuries due to violence than do rural areas. Perhaps this is not what you meant by "violent crime"? I know the output of these reports is difficult to interpret but see [1]. The top decile of per-capita violent deaths are rural counties, not urban ones. 1: https://wisqars.cdc.gov:8443/cdcMapFramework/output/m588…