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Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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> On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors. Well good for you, but as someone who lives in the centre of Amsterdam I can understand the motivation to discourage drug tourism. Edit: to clarify it's not the reams of tourists getting high in coffee shops that I have a problem with, but the knock-on effects of it. Tourists treat the city like an adult themepark and recently the city council have been taking steps to…

> recently the city council have been taking steps to address these problems I was in Amsterdam this morning and everyone I talked to explicitly mentioned it being done against drunk Englishmen on stag dos. I remember myself hating fractious drunk English stag parties, and have fond memories of pointing polite and hapless stoned Italians to the street we were already on. Tourists from the UK are reviled by Amsterdam…

Well the UK is near and there are cheap flights so yeah that combined with Amsterdam's reputation and the way certain people like to "represent" the UK abroad is a pretty bad mix. But there's just tons of people from all countries all over the world that are smoking weed under your window, pissing on the street, don't watch out for cyclists and so on. You don't fix Amsterdam by banning the Brits.

Also, Dutch stag parties seem not to be that far off what happens in the UK.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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I can confirm that and I'm there regularly for business. I assume it's because it's pretty much the pearl of the region (Bavaria) and if you take this away there is not much left. Also the city is full of pretty rich people who tend to this kind of behaviour. You see the same in people where the location of the city is similar like Warsaw in Poland for example being surrounded by backwater villages.

Just one question. In a city with high rents and salaries which never go above 80k how are these people so full of themselves ? Low wages is a German problem but at least cost of living is under control in several places.

> Just one question. In a city with high rents and salaries which never go above 80k how are these people so full of themselves ?

Because of just this.

They are the elite who can afford living there.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Workaround == loophole?

That's another way to put it, of course :) The law specified dried mushrooms specifically as the stance skirted complexities regarding the picking or possession of native wildlife samples (psilocybe semilanceata predominently). With kits offering the ability to grow easier-to-grow strains from elsewhere in the world (Central and South America principally) we sought clarification from the Home Office on whether it was…

> Made for an interesting few years.

Wow, didn’t know that. Which years are we talking about, roughly?

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Bravo, and here's hoping that other countries follow. I was recently shocked to discover that my backwards eastern european country is one of the few in the EU that has even decriminalized drugs; I genuinely thought that this was standard in the EU but apparently not, see this map https://i.imgur.com/A0JICkk.jpg

In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

> In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated

That’s a very strong “might“. Possession is legal for up to 15g in Berlin, and virtually no cop will ever bother you for smoking weed.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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That's another way to put it, of course :) The law specified dried mushrooms specifically as the stance skirted complexities regarding the picking or possession of native wildlife samples (psilocybe semilanceata predominently). With kits offering the ability to grow easier-to-grow strains from elsewhere in the world (Central and South America principally) we sought clarification from the Home Office on whether it was…

> Made for an interesting few years. Wow, didn’t know that. Which years are we talking about, roughly?

2003-2005-ish - so more couple than few!

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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The land of the free: now with mandatory drugs testing at work.

But obviously not testing for coffee, because that drug (although it can be deadly and habit forming) makes people work harder. Perfectly reasonable. And don't forget, "only losers do drugs"...

Deadly? Coffee? "Can be" leaves you plenty of room, but c'mon.

Here's the Mayo Clinic page on caffeine.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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It's funny how these things turn our expectations upside-down. I'm from the UK originally and they semi-recently (~10 years ago) upgraded the severity with which they treat cannabis so that it's now "Class B". This means that mere possession can result in "Up to 5 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both" (more @ https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing ). So yeah, your country might not be so backwards…

Or the UK is backwards.

In this respect (and in a few others) that's absolutely true
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