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They replace the whole phone. They do not swap batteries when you bring it in for a battery replacement.
That’s not true. They may replace the phone sometimes but I’ve only ever had them replace the battery.
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This anecdote so closely matches Apple's messaging on the topic, it makes me wonder if you are an Apple employee. However since it involves aftermarket sales, I suppose it's prudent to assume not. Let's look at it from a different angle. You got to take advantage of an aftermarket in order to find a cheap phone. In this case you got scammed, but for the time being you still have the option of getting a cheap battery…
What a typical HN reply. “I don’t believe you and I’m going to attempt to undermine your reputation by claiming you’re part of the enemy party” Maybe it’s inline with Apple’s messaging because Apple’s messaging is inline with the customer concerns?
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Well, it literally says the message is there even if you swap in a genuine Apple battery yourself. Whatever, can't lose if you never play Apple's game.
How would you do this? Remember, the chips in old apple batteries can be removed and used in other batteries.
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So we going with "lock down the hardware and software" anti-consumer Apple, or "spy on everything" anti-consumer Google?
Google'a shit is more easily mitigated if you're smart and want an only slightly less great browsing experience
You mean far superior because Firefox actually has extensions for their mobile browser?
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Google'a shit is more easily mitigated if you're smart and want an only slightly less great browsing experience
Google's phones track you in several ways that aren't through a browser. Want to see every place you've ever visited since you got your Android phone? Google has it and you can see it in your dashboard. Google keeps location tracking a secret from you until you view your data, then once you go look at it, they start sending you monthly summaries of your travels. Any don't get me started on the facial recognition in P…
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#127This is the reason why it gets more and more locked down.
I once bought a MacBook with weirdass problems. Turned out to be a bad data cable used by someone.
Chips are still swappable, because not many people do this / screw up, but also... a battery is quite a dangerous component
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#128>>"Technically, it is possible to remove the microcontroller chip from the original battery and carefully solder it into the new battery you’re swapping in, restoring the Battery Health feature—but the procedure isn’t for the faint of heart, and it’s an unreasonable requirement for any repair, much less something as simple as a battery swap." it seems a razor and a low wattage solder iron will fix it. and im guessing…
The chip could keep encryption keys in RAM (since it’s always powered by the battery and there’s always gonna be enough juice in there to power it given its tiny power consumption) and if the chip loses power (due to being desoldered) the keys are lost preventing the phone from authenticating it.
Read RAM image before desoldering. Write image to RAM after resoldering.
For that matter, read RAM image from old battery and write it to new battery, no soldering required. Or MITM the connection between phone and battery, and the bypass device can pass-through battery health information while intercepting and responding to authentication-related signals.
You will never be able to enforce hardware security indefinitely against an attacker with device-in-possession.
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#129Despite all the HN comments, Apple's made an absolute killing and charges FAR FAR higher margins for their products in part because they design them so normal people don't get totally f'd over. And yes, the scam of a trash after market battery to make the iphone battery life look good is well known. And guess how many parents and grandparents then go to apple to "fix" something that has nothing to do with Apple? The…
I'm having a very hard time following your logic: Apple charges lots of money on commodity parts because they don't want users getting, as you say, "f'ed over" There is a healthy after market ecosystem primarily because apple charges so much. Not the other way around. Furthermore, in the video on the ifixit site, the blogger replaced the battery with a genuine secondhand apple battery and it would not recognize it. T…
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#130Despite all the HN comments, Apple's made an absolute killing and charges FAR FAR higher margins for their products in part because they design them so normal people don't get totally f'd over. And yes, the scam of a trash after market battery to make the iphone battery life look good is well known. And guess how many parents and grandparents then go to apple to "fix" something that has nothing to do with Apple? The…
Well, it literally says the message is there even if you swap in a genuine Apple battery yourself. Whatever, can't lose if you never play Apple's game.