Great app and execution! I have been considering an open source + subscription model for an app I'm working on. Do you have any concerns about "piracy" (someone forking it and removing the subscription stuff)? Any lessons learned along the way?
Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
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Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
#222) I popped the app open when I found it, but haven't used it yet. One thought I had then, I'll share here: if it doesn't have a mode similar to the Lotus Bud app, it might be nice to have something like that. Basically, you can set up the Lotus Bud app to check in randomly during the day (window of time, and frequency are both configurable) and invite you to "clear" for a moment. Quirk could ask if there's a thought stream you'l like to address.
Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
#23Taking it for a spin, and wishing you the best!
Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
#24Nice work! This is a great idea and something I've thought should exist since getting interested in CBT a few months back. Before even trying the app, here are some thoughts. - On pricing: $4/mo seems like a difficult price point to build a business around, and it doesn't reflect the value you're offering. People pay hundreds/thousands per month to therapists to improve their mental health. If outcomes from using you…
As for pricing, I would add a second point of view: price the app in a sustainable way right from the start. Estimate the realistic number of subscribers you can get, and set the pricing so that you can continue to develop the app. Too many apps price themselves too low "because otherwise nobody will buy", and end up disappearing anyway, because they weren't able to survive on the small amount of money.
I don't have experience with consumer subscriptions. I can only say that in the B2B SaaS world, I don't think you can build a sustainable business with pricing below $40/month. The consumer numbers are likely lower, because you can get more customers with a smaller support load. But I don't think $4/month is a realistic price point.
Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
#251) How will migration to new iOS devices work if the thoughts are only stored locally? 2) I popped the app open when I found it, but haven't used it yet. One thought I had then, I'll share here: if it doesn't have a mode similar to the Lotus Bud app, it might be nice to have something like that. Basically, you can set up the Lotus Bud app to check in randomly during the day (window of time, and frequency are both con…
2 - Ah, our reminder notifications kind of work like that, but we'll probably try to make that more configurable as the days go on.
Re: Launch HN: Quirk (YC S19) – Open-Source Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
#26The little circle guys are hilarious. I really like how instructional the landing page is, with a sort of old-world informational ad copy style instead of just a bunch of flashy screenshots. Taking it for a spin, and wishing you the best!
Plus, we'd really like to make the site have lots of free explanations about CBT and it's concepts. That's why we picked the "fyi" domain originally.
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#27Nice work! This is a great idea and something I've thought should exist since getting interested in CBT a few months back. Before even trying the app, here are some thoughts. - On pricing: $4/mo seems like a difficult price point to build a business around, and it doesn't reflect the value you're offering. People pay hundreds/thousands per month to therapists to improve their mental health. If outcomes from using you…
You suggest increasing the price because "If outcomes from using your app compare favorably to a therapist, shouldn't your pricing reflect that?", but then the next two points on brand and stigma suggest opening it up to all people who want to feel great.
I think you need to choose one. You are either a niche therapy compliment/competitor (price insensitive) or a mental wellbeing tool for a broad audience (super price sensitive).
I personally hope you keep to the lower price point. I think overall you will do more Good and reach more people. Even if you don't make a unicorn, $4/month from 5% of your market, is still $20M/month.
Also, final note, many people suffering from mental illness can not afford therapy. Even $4 would be hard, $50 is impossible.
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#28Awesome product and idea, I can definitely see this solution (or similar ones) be a crucial "culture-boost" for companies. And, of course, +1 for open sourcing it. With that said, any reason you guys decided to GPL it? I actively try to avoid both contributing as well as using GPL-licensed software (e.g. non-permissive libraries). All my stuff, for example, is MIT'd.
To be honest, I just kind of picked it and went with it. I think at the time I had been talking a lot with my dad (an old copy-left enthusiast). I never really thought it would really be a thing.
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#29What's to stop someone making a free clone from the open source version if the paid version really takes off?
Like many hip big startups today, one of their strongest competitive advantage is having users. Most users come because product A offers a better UX than product B.
At least I feel that most big FAANG companies are mostly UX plays. In some cases you have to get very technical and innovative to give a good UX (Google), but in other cases not (Facebook).
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#30Nice work! This is a great idea and something I've thought should exist since getting interested in CBT a few months back. Before even trying the app, here are some thoughts. - On pricing: $4/mo seems like a difficult price point to build a business around, and it doesn't reflect the value you're offering. People pay hundreds/thousands per month to therapists to improve their mental health. If outcomes from using you…
Offhand, I feel your advice is contrary. You suggest increasing the price because "If outcomes from using your app compare favorably to a therapist, shouldn't your pricing reflect that?", but then the next two points on brand and stigma suggest opening it up to all people who want to feel great. I think you need to choose one. You are either a niche therapy compliment/competitor (price insensitive) or a mental wellbe…