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Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Canada shares a border with the USA (where persecution of cannabis use is a billion-dollar profitable industry) and has made no effort to dissuide cannabis tourism. On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors.

>where persecution of cannabis use is a billion-dollar profitable industry Source?

Private prison industry. Incentive wise they have every incentive to fight cannabis reform. Easy convictions -> more convictions -> more demand for prisons.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Canada shares a border with the USA (where persecution of cannabis use is a billion-dollar profitable industry) and has made no effort to dissuide cannabis tourism. On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors.

> On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors. Well good for you, but as someone who lives in the centre of Amsterdam I can understand the motivation to discourage drug tourism. Edit: to clarify it's not the reams of tourists getting high in coffee shops that I have a problem with, but the knock-on effects of it. Tourists treat the city like an adult themepark and recently the city council have been taking steps to…

I am personally more annoyed by the drunk people than i am by the high/stoned people.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Probably because not everyone is okay with thousands of people coming to their city every year just to take drugs.

Isn’t that Oktoberfest?

Alcohol's not a drug, it's a drink.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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> On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors. Well good for you, but as someone who lives in the centre of Amsterdam I can understand the motivation to discourage drug tourism. Edit: to clarify it's not the reams of tourists getting high in coffee shops that I have a problem with, but the knock-on effects of it. Tourists treat the city like an adult themepark and recently the city council have been taking steps to…

I am personally more annoyed by the drunk people than i am by the high/stoned people.

If people were just smoking weed that wouldn't be a problem.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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If their crimes are predicated upon a law which is no longer seen as justifiable, it's almost like they weren't doing anything bad at all.

Selling drugs is a money source for organizations that do things you generally don't want to legalize.

Most people are just trying to make a living. Hopefully the pritzker company is forced to atone for their evils.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Bravo, and here's hoping that other countries follow. I was recently shocked to discover that my backwards eastern european country is one of the few in the EU that has even decriminalized drugs; I genuinely thought that this was standard in the EU but apparently not, see this map https://i.imgur.com/A0JICkk.jpg

In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

Off topic but I found Bavaria to be much more snobbish in general. For example, point out something funny about them and they immediately go on the defensive, however everyt time they say something rude and you point it out, they play the German honesty card. Never had such a problem with Berlin or Frankfurt.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Bravo, and here's hoping that other countries follow. I was recently shocked to discover that my backwards eastern european country is one of the few in the EU that has even decriminalized drugs; I genuinely thought that this was standard in the EU but apparently not, see this map https://i.imgur.com/A0JICkk.jpg

It's funny how these things turn our expectations upside-down. I'm from the UK originally and they semi-recently (~10 years ago) upgraded the severity with which they treat cannabis so that it's now "Class B". This means that mere possession can result in "Up to 5 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both" (more @ https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing).

So yeah, your country might not be so backwards after all, and in this respect at least is pretty enlightened in the grand scheme of things :-)

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Isn’t that Oktoberfest?

Alcohol's not a drug, it's a drink.

You can dissolve MDMA in water, making it a drink.

LSD is often liquid before being deposited on a stamp.

Molecules are what matters, not the structure or state, and alcohol (like tobacco) is effectively a drug.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Isn’t that Oktoberfest?

Alcohol's not a drug, it's a drink.

I'm far from a puritan - I thoroughly enjoy my beer (and rum, and slivovice ...etc) - but let's be honest, the addictive properties of alcohol together with the societal, social and physical damage that it can cause either match or exceed substances which are otherwise treated as "drugs".

This is not to say I think alcohol should be banned or more strongly controlled, but rather that we should really rethink how we harshly we view things like cannabis

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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> Schneider said the legislation was likely to include a ban on non-residents buying cannabis in order to dissuade drug-tourism. Given the fact they're sharing a border with France: probably a good idea.

A genuine question, Aren't all EU citizens supposed to be treated equally across the EU? How would such a ban work?

Even different cities have different laws, the EU is not some magical homogeneous government as much as the haters want to purport it as such.
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