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AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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That's not true, with more core Ryzen can run game with other apps without any problems it's not the same with Intel though.

unless you are compiling chrome in the background or streaming, you're not going to saturate even eight cores while gaming. in most benchmarks I've seen, the 9900k still performs better while streaming.

Now you are talking about Intel's best desktop CPU. of course it performs better while streaming otherwise it would be ..

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

#152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true, with more core Ryzen can run game with other apps without any problems it's not the same with Intel though.

unless you are compiling chrome in the background or streaming, you're not going to saturate even eight cores while gaming. in most benchmarks I've seen, the 9900k still performs better while streaming.

similar mindset: Who needs more than 32-bit for internet address.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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Xeon has been making 50–70% profit margin depending on the Xeon type. Intel's profit margins will take a hit when they are forced to cut prices. It's unlikely that AMD has enough manufacturing capacity to fill all demand, so Intel will still make profit. History: AMD had similar upper hand against Intel with their Athlon processor 20 years ago. Intel's transition to the 180 nm process was delayed and AMD's K7 Athlon…

Of course, even if they were totally kicking ass it will take many years for AMD to build more capacity to what Intel has. Fabs take astronomic investment and time to build. But, it seems Intel is and has been for quite some time unable to even keep up with competition. It was leader and it seems 10 and 7nm processes completely stopped them in their tracks with regards to competition. I am kind of interested what act…

AMD is fabless and uses TSMC and Global Foundries. I imagine they can ramp faster than you say.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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servethehome had an interesting paragraph in their review: > We are also not allowed to name because Intel put pressure on the OEM who built it to have AMD not disclose this information, despite said OEM having their logo emblazoned all over the system. Yes, Intel is going to that level of competitive pressure on its industry partners ahead of AMD’s launch. https://www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-7002-series-rome-deliv…

Can you expand on this a bit? Who is disallowing whom to not name what? From my first reading of your comment, it seems like Intel is pushing partners to not disclose their relationship with AMD? Is that not, like, almost cartel-like behavior?

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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Same here. Find nearest Micro Center, see wonderful deal, spend more than you came in looking to spend, repeat. Unless you don’t have any kind of physical computer store near you, I don’t see why buying it on eBay would be useful.

Damn, I have been desperately trying to get one since launch. Think the USA is getting them all, and the rest of the world is getting screwed. I paid on launch day, my store is getting 2 3900x's this month, they have 78 people who have paid in full and are waiting.

My original comment was quite ignorant, then, and I apologize for it. They’ve got quite a few at my Micro Center for $449 if you purchase a compatible motherboard, so I was (incorrectly) assuming that this applied to the rest of the world too.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

#156

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Of course, even if they were totally kicking ass it will take many years for AMD to build more capacity to what Intel has. Fabs take astronomic investment and time to build. But, it seems Intel is and has been for quite some time unable to even keep up with competition. It was leader and it seems 10 and 7nm processes completely stopped them in their tracks with regards to competition. I am kind of interested what act…

AMD is fabless and uses TSMC and Global Foundries. I imagine they can ramp faster than you say.

I didn't know that. Still, somebody would have to build capacity to handle demand and it won't be much faster just because it is TSMC/GF.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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post #136

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Xeon has been making 50–70% profit margin depending on the Xeon type. Intel's profit margins will take a hit when they are forced to cut prices. It's unlikely that AMD has enough manufacturing capacity to fill all demand, so Intel will still make profit. History: AMD had similar upper hand against Intel with their Athlon processor 20 years ago. Intel's transition to the 180 nm process was delayed and AMD's K7 Athlon…

Correct me if I'm mixing up the timeline, but that's the moment in history when Intel used illegal market manipulation to keep AMD out of the OEM market, right? So Intel did more than lower their profit margin, they basically bribed their way through that period. An option they are unlikely to have again, and which as a strategy shouldn't even work anymore for the type of data centers existing today.

I am curious why you think it will not work as well as last time. It is not as if law enforcement is more active now. Generally law enforcement at the moment is forbidden to touch the big fish, since the biggest fish sets policy.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

#158

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unless you are compiling chrome in the background or streaming, you're not going to saturate even eight cores while gaming. in most benchmarks I've seen, the 9900k still performs better while streaming.

Now you are talking about Intel's best desktop CPU. of course it performs better while streaming otherwise it would be ..

okay, what parts are we talking about then? aside from the 3900x, the Intel parts all have the same core count as their amd counterpart at similar price points.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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The build team has already started to look for a 1RU, 2 server blade, 2 cores each server to buy to test our workload on it. Space and power vs. test and build throughput wins all battles. Great job AMD. Me personally, I just want to know if it can handle Civ6 with huge map and 18 AI players. It’s the little things..

IDK about EPYC, but my 3700x was blazing through startgame with those settings on Linux Civ 6.

Where standard/8 AI was unplayable on my FX8350.

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> For those with little time: at the high end with socketed x86 CPUs, AMD offers you up to 50 to 100% higher performance while offering at a 40% lower price. Unless you go for the low end server CPUs, there is no contest: AMD offers much better performance for a much lower price than Intel, with more memory channels and over 2x the number of PCIe lanes. These are also PCIe 4.0 lanes. What if you want to more than 2 T…

Xeon has been making 50–70% profit margin depending on the Xeon type. Intel's profit margins will take a hit when they are forced to cut prices. It's unlikely that AMD has enough manufacturing capacity to fill all demand, so Intel will still make profit. History: AMD had similar upper hand against Intel with their Athlon processor 20 years ago. Intel's transition to the 180 nm process was delayed and AMD's K7 Athlon…

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16145208-slingshot is a good book that covers Intel/AMD history
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