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AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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The best time to buy an EPYC Rome server was 10 years ago. The next best time is today. Edit: Okay, since some people are downvoting my joke, a more serious answer -- if your server farm is running out of space, and you're currently looking at renting additional space to accommodate your growth, EPYC Rome will take up substantially less space for a given level of performance. This is one case where it may make sense…

Physical space is almost never a constraint in data centers. It's power and cooling that are almost always the limit. If AMD's chips offer better performance/watt, that would make them attractive. The capital cost of purchasing a server tends to be a smaller number than the cost of the power to run and cool it over its lifetime. However, what also matters is vendor support. Lots of companies have contracts for pricin…

Big names like Cray, Google, AWS, and Microsoft are already on board.

The next generation of the Zen chipset has already been designed.

EPYC Rome is likely being priced s.t. Xeon's would have to be sold at a loss to match $/perf.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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The thing is you can't even get Ryzen inside a Dell or Lenovo machine - so for businesses it's kind of hard to get onboard with they hype. So intel is going to keep up market share until AMD can get into some prebuilt systems.

Typing this on a Dell Ryzen system. They don't have Ryzen 3000 systems out yet, so that much is true.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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> For those with little time: at the high end with socketed x86 CPUs, AMD offers you up to 50 to 100% higher performance while offering at a 40% lower price. Unless you go for the low end server CPUs, there is no contest: AMD offers much better performance for a much lower price than Intel, with more memory channels and over 2x the number of PCIe lanes. These are also PCIe 4.0 lanes. What if you want to more than 2 T…

Does price matter though? I would imagine power consumption is a much bigger deal.

EPYC Rome wins on perf/watt as well.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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> I can't buy a Ryzen 3900X without paying substantially inflated ebay prices. I'm experiencing the opposite. There has been so many deals on 3900X that I have to constantly tell myself I don't need an upgrade.

I am genuinely intrigued. I've been going to my local Microcenters in the DC VA area for weeks now and they said they have gotten ZERO shipments in since release day of the 3900X and have a couple 3700X maybe on shelves. This doesn't necessarily completely invalidate my point though - distribution by AMD is clearly needing some work when one region is drowning in 3900X processors and a very wealthy metro area has non…

Same. The Nutley St. location sold out on the first day and hasn't been any since.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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> "We designed this part to compete with Ice Lake, expecting to make some headway on single threaded performance. We did not expect to be facing re-warmed Skylake instead. This is going to be one of the highlights of our careers" Looks like AMD expected Intel would actually start to fight back a few years ago when AMD started the Zen and Rome cores, and AMD has been running full steam ahead since then. Meanwhile, in…

Intels 10nm node has been a disaster for years. This comes off as less "Intel has been doing nothing forever" and more "what they planned to do blew up in their face".

That being said, if AMD never made Ryzen, you can bet your bottom dollar we would have been really enjoying ourselves 6 core hyperthreaded Ice Lake desktop and 16-24 core server CPUs next year for prices that AMD is now pushing 12 core and 48 core chips at.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Physical space is almost never a constraint in data centers. It's power and cooling that are almost always the limit. If AMD's chips offer better performance/watt, that would make them attractive. The capital cost of purchasing a server tends to be a smaller number than the cost of the power to run and cool it over its lifetime. However, what also matters is vendor support. Lots of companies have contracts for pricin…

Big names like Cray, Google, AWS, and Microsoft are already on board. The next generation of the Zen chipset has already been designed. EPYC Rome is likely being priced s.t. Xeon's would have to be sold at a loss to match $/perf.

"on board" in this case means producing a full line of servers with the AMD chips, not just being interested in them.

People can't buy interesting ideas, and businesses aren't going to change system vendors overnight.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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The thing is you can't even get Ryzen inside a Dell or Lenovo machine - so for businesses it's kind of hard to get onboard with they hype. So intel is going to keep up market share until AMD can get into some prebuilt systems.

In laptops, you can. Lenovo launched the T495 and T495s a couple of months ago. AMD being a part of the venerable T-series is a huge testament to their come back.

Not sure about desktops.

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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The build team has already started to look for a 1RU, 2 server blade, 2 cores each server to buy to test our workload on it. Space and power vs. test and build throughput wins all battles. Great job AMD. Me personally, I just want to know if it can handle Civ6 with huge map and 18 AI players. It’s the little things..

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big names like Cray, Google, AWS, and Microsoft are already on board. The next generation of the Zen chipset has already been designed. EPYC Rome is likely being priced s.t. Xeon's would have to be sold at a loss to match $/perf.

"on board" in this case means producing a full line of servers with the AMD chips, not just being interested in them. People can't buy interesting ideas, and businesses aren't going to change system vendors overnight.

Wait, what? All of the above companies are basing major products on EPYC Rome. Have you read the press releases?

Re: AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchmarked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best time to buy an EPYC Rome server was 10 years ago. The next best time is today. Edit: Okay, since some people are downvoting my joke, a more serious answer -- if your server farm is running out of space, and you're currently looking at renting additional space to accommodate your growth, EPYC Rome will take up substantially less space for a given level of performance. This is one case where it may make sense…

Physical space is almost never a constraint in data centers. It's power and cooling that are almost always the limit. If AMD's chips offer better performance/watt, that would make them attractive. The capital cost of purchasing a server tends to be a smaller number than the cost of the power to run and cool it over its lifetime. However, what also matters is vendor support. Lots of companies have contracts for pricin…

Dell, HPE, Lenovo, Cisco, Supermicro, and others are on board. It's so weird when people talk about past events like they're hypothetical.
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