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Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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Could you look at the wireless MAC, contact the manufacturer, figure out where it was sold, contact the seller, and ask for sales records? Guess it wouldn't prevent people from buying on craigslist.

You could try, but I imagine most manufacturers/stores wouldn't give that info out to non-police. And some places might not even give it out to police without a legal warrant.

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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Find someone who's out on leave for a while (just look for who's having a baby on IG) and ship the package to him/her! They won't discover it for weeks and you'll have plenty of time for your package to sit in the mailroom or on someone's desk. The danger is when the package is opened, the company may realize they've been hacked. Or have it there permanently: Ship an executive a fancy illuminated globe or desk clock…

All the old TEMPEST stuff probably works great when you're _inside_ the target's building.

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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post #36

Seems like doing this with a rooted phone would be even sneakier. You've got everything you need built in: battery, modem, etc. When it eventually does get opened, the mailroom person is going to think "oh someone ordered a phone" instead of "holy shit, this bunch of wires and circuit boards is maybe a bomb and definitely something I should tell the police about".

IDK. If they put it in a stuffed animal like the pic in the article, how many would rip it open to see what's inside?

But what is more suspicious - a phone nobody ordered or (in the worst case of discovery) a stuffed animal nobody ordered with custom electronics in it?

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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post #27

Find someone who's out on leave for a while (just look for who's having a baby on IG) and ship the package to him/her! They won't discover it for weeks and you'll have plenty of time for your package to sit in the mailroom or on someone's desk. The danger is when the package is opened, the company may realize they've been hacked. Or have it there permanently: Ship an executive a fancy illuminated globe or desk clock…

How would you be able to pull out any information out of an audio recording of keyboard typing? Wouldn't the training set differ between keyboards too? Sounds interesting it it worked, do you have any sources?

https://ggerganov.github.io/jekyll/update/2018/11/24/keytap....

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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Why an attacker should spend 100$ , sending hardware to the target that could be potentially tracked following the path between the resellers, could transport evidences like fingerprints or DNA, using a telephone connection that could also be tracked when the same thing could be done with a good radio equipment and more discretion ? Anyway, I am the kind of guy that inspects the ATM praying to find out a skimmer to dissect, so if someone would send me all that cool stuff directly at home is welcome !

Moreover: battery. How many time a battery of reasonable dimensions could survive powering that kind of system ? exaggerating, 3 days without using a heavy use of the phone modem ? But let's say that in that time the attacker reach the target collecting WIFI keys that doesn't mean that he can compromise any PC or phone in the home network. So my advise is to send directly networking hardware compromised (i.e. an access point ) and, if your budget is 100$ , you can send a very nice piece of hardware to the target, avoiding that he throws all that stuff away (if he can't recycle all like me ). Again, if someone could send me a free, 100$ worth AP is welcome.

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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If it's not a strong hash and the protocol doesn't include salting, it's not impossible. Rainbow tables exist. And they really only need to find a collision. Wi-Fi protocols, especially WEP, have had vulnerabilities similar to this before. Similar in the sense that if you sniffed enough traffic you could figure out the password (don't recall the specific mechanisms - but this could be one).

It's unfair to say that there is no salting. The PMK is derived from the WiFi network name (SSID) as well as the password [1]. The SSID acts as a salt here. Not perfect as SSIDs are often not unique, but it's certainly better than no salting at all. [1]: https://www.ins1gn1a.com/understanding-wpa-psk-cracking/

So stupid they don’t use the MAC as the salt.

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

#47

Why an attacker should spend 100$ , sending hardware to the target that could be potentially tracked following the path between the resellers, could transport evidences like fingerprints or DNA, using a telephone connection that could also be tracked when the same thing could be done with a good radio equipment and more discretion ? Anyway, I am the kind of guy that inspects the ATM praying to find out a skimmer to d…

Think about the distance factor. Sure, you could get good radio stuff set up so that you don't have to be in the parking lot to break in and can avoid appearing suspicious on any surveillance cameras, but you still have to be within a few kilometers at most. With warshipping you can be across the planet.

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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>Once the warship locates a Wi-Fi network from the mail room or the recipient’s desk, it listens for wireless data packets it can use to break into the network. The warship listens for a handshake — the process of authorizing a user to log onto the Wi-Fi network — then sends that scrambled data over the cellular network back to the attacker’s servers, which has far more processing power to crack the hash into a reada…

My friend did this with his neighbor's wifi (with their permission of course) just to see if he could. He got trial access to some super computers in the Google cloud (sorry I'm not more specific, just recollecting what he told me) and was able to crack with that horsepower in a day or so.

Your friend probably used the GPU enabled instances, which are absurdly efficient at generating WPA2 hashes.

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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Great plan, but we have to test it. Can you upload a sample dataset of you typing for 1 week so we can try this approach?

I have their dataset. Email me for details.

Can it be published? Happy to contribute bandwidth!

Re: Hackers ship their exploits directly to their target’s mailroom

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post #9

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There are numerous attacks to crack wifi hashes. In theory, a properly implemented hash should not be crackable -- but theory often does not match the real world.

No, any hash will be crackable, it just depends on how fast. A well designed authentication protocol shouldn't expose any hashes to be cracked in the first place.

Sure -- if you define the heat death of the universe as "how fast".
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