I'll leave this here: https://sci-hub.tw/ FTW
What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
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Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#12I read a lot of bad things about Elsevier, so who is supporting them? Why aren't editors moving their publications en masse to some free and open platform?
You'd think a reputation transplant would be possible if you just took the key people.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#13Man, I hate Elsevier with a passion. As well as being shady, dishonest, shifty, moneygrubbing toerags, they also provide the world's crappiest service. I have to use their web interface every time I submit a paper to an Elsevier journal. It's like sticking needles into my eyes. It's this bad: in 2019, they still use an image map for their main menu. A particular pleasure is when they force me to compile my TeX into a…
The papers they hold hostage have not been fully backed up [1] and made accessible for everyone. Elsevier does deserve to go bankrupt, but we must ensure that the information they have amassed gets salvaged.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#14I don't even want to read the article. I am on UC's side whatever happened.
Hearing someone is having a dispute against Elsevier is like hearing someone is fighting polymetis. I just know which side I want to see win.
The fact that no politician ever moved to destroy Elsevier destructive behavior that impairs research shows how little interest they have in scientific research.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#15Man, I hate Elsevier with a passion. As well as being shady, dishonest, shifty, moneygrubbing toerags, they also provide the world's crappiest service. I have to use their web interface every time I submit a paper to an Elsevier journal. It's like sticking needles into my eyes. It's this bad: in 2019, they still use an image map for their main menu. A particular pleasure is when they force me to compile my TeX into a…
I was waiting for the "but". Reaching the final period of your sentence was deeply satisfying.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#16I read a lot of bad things about Elsevier, so who is supporting them? Why aren't editors moving their publications en masse to some free and open platform? You'd think a reputation transplant would be possible if you just took the key people.
Their model is to leech out public funding through catering at decision maker interests. There are strong incentive to keep the system as it is and no one is paid to organize to fix that problem.
In theory that's when you would like to see politicians put an end to these practices but corruption is legal in US, so...
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#17Man, I hate Elsevier with a passion. As well as being shady, dishonest, shifty, moneygrubbing toerags, they also provide the world's crappiest service. I have to use their web interface every time I submit a paper to an Elsevier journal. It's like sticking needles into my eyes. It's this bad: in 2019, they still use an image map for their main menu. A particular pleasure is when they force me to compile my TeX into a…
While we’re doing “as well as”s about Elsevier...
I hate how soulless the journals feel. Recently, I wanted to read a quite old paper as it connected to my recent research. It was published in the 60s, in a journal that has housed some extremely ground breaking work in my field. But you wouldn’t get that impression from their elsevier site. Where is the history? Where is the pride? Instead it looks just like any old rubbish journal, and any reader who stumbled upon it would think the same unless they read its history in Wikipedia.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#18"The UC Libraries do not endorse the use of Sci-Hub for article access.”30 As the UC Berkeley university librarian said in a published interview, “we are unequivocal: it is our understanding (though we are not attorneys!) that Sci-Hub is in violation of U.S. copyright law. We will not advise nor help anyone to use it" That is probably the best endorsing non-endorcement I have read. It never says they discourage SciHu…
At one point, that's a coward's stance.
Alexandra Elbakyan's contribution to scientific research at this stage is probably higher than any university's library.
Recognize that everyone uses it because none of the legal options are acceptable. Say it and urge a long overdue change in copyright laws.
It is abnormal that Elbakyan is the outlaw and Elsevier the respectable institution here.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#19I read a lot of bad things about Elsevier, so who is supporting them? Why aren't editors moving their publications en masse to some free and open platform? You'd think a reputation transplant would be possible if you just took the key people.
Publishing in high impact journals is vital for a scientific career.
Only the very top has enough individual reputation that they can ignore Elsevier & co. And they still like their articles published in Science, Nature, or whatever the most prestigious journal is in their field.
Some top dogs are already boycotting Elsevier and the situation is very slowly changing, but the publishers hold a lot of leverage because of self-imposed academic incentives.
Re: What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier
#20Man, I hate Elsevier with a passion. As well as being shady, dishonest, shifty, moneygrubbing toerags, they also provide the world's crappiest service. I have to use their web interface every time I submit a paper to an Elsevier journal. It's like sticking needles into my eyes. It's this bad: in 2019, they still use an image map for their main menu. A particular pleasure is when they force me to compile my TeX into a…
It is hard to say this, but Russia is helping the world fight against Elsevier and all those money funneling institutions... (with scihub, for anyone not knowing that it is a russian 'service')