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Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Firefox and Safari already made similar changes. Safari made the exact same change, and Firefox hides http:// already, but not https:// , chrome is just using a lock icon to represent the https:// instead of the actual string.

As mentioned, at least this setting can be disabled in Firefox. (I don't know if this is possible in Chrome.)

Since nobody replied, I mentioned this in another comment that you can revert this in chrome://flags

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20631676

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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This is a giant AMP scam. The next change will be that it will trick users into thinking they are on are on a real site like example.com but will instead be on Google.com/example.com. But chrome will remove google.com just like http/s.

Signed HTTP exchanges. It was actually the main complaint about AMP because it caused confusion among users. Technically it makes no difference wether the content is hosted by the author or any AMP CDN. The question is more a philosophical one. If it’s wrong that the URL doesn’t point to where files are “actually” stored. Or rather that the package delivery and package creator aren’t the same party. In my mind this h…

I would argue the issue is not technical at all, and this should not be part of the discussion.

The issue is deceit and fraud. A browser should _never_ ever under any circumstances be able to display one companies domain differently than all others. Especially when it's their domain.

Google.com, or any of Alphabet's domains, should not get special preference or treatment. And they certainly should not be trimmed out of an address for the benefit of Alphabet/Google to the detriment of all others.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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I don't understand why you have to click twice to show this info. That's just bizarre.

Simple UX: don't move things around more than necessary. I honestly don't understand why people think this second click is unreasonable; the power-user shortcut (ctrl-l) already expands immediately anyway.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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I find this really annoying. We have an internal SPA with buggy routing where it'll render for both http and https but the requests made by the client fail because they mirror the protocol when hitting the backend.

It's a pretty trivial issue that has sat around for a while. While I run Firefox, I would normally distinguish what version of the site a user is on by the green lock.

While http does show a "Not secure" segment next to the URL, everything just shows as black and white in dark mode, making it harder to distinguish at a glance.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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And requires you to jump through non-obvious hoops to make "hidden" files and folders visible.

And now ~/Library is invisible by default, so that's yet another thing I have to fix on any new installation.

https://github.com/sneak/osximage - i encourage you to snag the user setup scripts from here. the complete nbi building is out of date as it’s fallen out of favor with current releases but the configuration scripts can all still just be batch run on a fresh install to make osx sane.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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There's a user story that can be filled:

"As a ____, I want to get users to our []-controlled version of our site, without alerting the user aware they are on our []-controlled version of our site."

So in this sense there are points for filling it. It's still the correct domain, so this is quite a niche user story.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Given the implementations I've seen of file metadata outside of the extension I'm okay with this - every time OSes (especially windows) tries to strip away the extension it ends up switching the file type from being a description of "what am I" to "what can open me", I really dislike "what can open me" especially when we get into a lot of common office work file formats. Knowing the difference between .rtf, .txt, .do…

Agreed. Apple's pre-OSX metadata system was two pieces: "What am I" and "Who created me." This was an amazingly flexible system that just worked and was the best of both worlds.

I seem to remember a whole ecosystem of shareware apps To change/fix that metadata.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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It's not the picture that broke, it's not the user that is dumb, but the system that is broken. Dot extensions is a concept that should never have seen the light of the 21st century. Or at least it should be a last resort for the system to guess the file format for those formats that don't have magic numbers in their headers or for lesser known formats.

Or more generally the header should contain the metadata of the file: date modified, filetype, comments, icon, etc, rather than spreading that between the filesystem (with different filesystems having inconsistent dates), the OS, etc.

I disagree, locality data such as ownership, modified date, comments, permissions even, should not be part of the file, it breaks things like repeatable builds, version control and anything where the contents of the file are considered static.

shadow files (._*) and directory clutter (.DS_Store/desktop.ini) are one solution, but they're ugly and frustrating, having separate areas in the filestore (like a resource fork, but designed to be ephemeral) are a much more sane solution.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #138

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Given the implementations I've seen of file metadata outside of the extension I'm okay with this - every time OSes (especially windows) tries to strip away the extension it ends up switching the file type from being a description of "what am I" to "what can open me", I really dislike "what can open me" especially when we get into a lot of common office work file formats. Knowing the difference between .rtf, .txt, .do…

Agreed. Apple's pre-OSX metadata system was two pieces: "What am I" and "Who created me." This was an amazingly flexible system that just worked and was the best of both worlds.

@TylerE

That's fine, not every task that is possible must be directly supported by the OS - third party apps to fiddle with data that is considered non-primary workflow like that is OK.

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