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China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by cesarb »

HashHishBang wrote: post #43
addicted wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe this is incorrect in this case. Huawei is ahead of competitors in the 5G space.

Considering the sheer volume of mobile devices in asia, and China in particular, this wouldn't surprise me. However, I was under the impression that "5g" doesn't actually mean anything. As in there is no technical definition or standard that Huawei could be ahead of. Are we just talking about general mobile technologies or have things changed wrt 5G?

> However, I was under the impression that "5g" doesn't actually mean anything. As in there is no technical definition or standard that Huawei could be ahead of. Are we just talking about general mobile technologies or have things changed wrt 5G?

I believe most people mean 5G NR (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G_NR) when they talk about 5G, the same way 4G usually means LTE.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by adventured »

Guthur wrote: post #64
paganel wrote: post #42

In an ideal world one should not be spied on by anyone else, but in this particular case I think India would be more ok (so to speak) of being spied on by the US than by China, the reason being that India has an ongoing and still open border dispute with China, while its relations with the US are a little more benign. Granted, I'm not from India and I've never visited the country, maybe someone more knowledgeable tha…

You'd need to have been living on a different planet to think that the US is benign. Relatively benign to their own citizens but far and away the most globally antagonistic country over the last 50 years. The list of wars and interventions, arms dealing, extradition etc would be far beyond anything China has done. No government is beyond over stepping it's boundaries but unfortunately non US citizens do not have a co…

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Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by HashHishBang »

cesarb wrote: post #81
HashHishBang wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering the sheer volume of mobile devices in asia, and China in particular, this wouldn't surprise me. However, I was under the impression that "5g" doesn't actually mean anything. As in there is no technical definition or standard that Huawei could be ahead of. Are we just talking about general mobile technologies or have things changed wrt 5G?

> However, I was under the impression that "5g" doesn't actually mean anything. As in there is no technical definition or standard that Huawei could be ahead of. Are we just talking about general mobile technologies or have things changed wrt 5G? I believe most people mean 5G NR ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G_NR ) when they talk about 5G, the same way 4G usually means LTE.

Ah, I didn't know this was a thing. Thanks mate.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by __m »

FourScore wrote: post #77
rat9988 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that the idea that the US is more benign than china is shared outside the US or the occidental world.

The US gives more aid around the world than any other country on Earth. The US has been an advocate and global protector of human rights and civil freedoms around the world for over half a century. The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace. The US has given more to the world through its scientific and industrial innovation in the last 50 years than any other nation over the sam…

They neither give the most aid in total nor in % of gross national income.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by yumraj »

eximius wrote: post #70
rdtsc wrote: post #48

China has a good relationship with Pakistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relatio... I wonder how that plays into it, given the recent events in Kashimir: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/india-revokes-kashmir... If I had to guess these sanctions and warnings are never purely technological and are mostly political.

I don't know anything about this, but it seems quite surprising, given China's record of 'disappearing' millions of Muslims (and other citizens) right next door to Pakistan

China-Pak friendship is driven simply by their mutual enmity of India. Basically, enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by Leary »

FourScore wrote: post #77
rat9988 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that the idea that the US is more benign than china is shared outside the US or the occidental world.

The US gives more aid around the world than any other country on Earth. The US has been an advocate and global protector of human rights and civil freedoms around the world for over half a century. The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace. The US has given more to the world through its scientific and industrial innovation in the last 50 years than any other nation over the sam…

"The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace."

John Bolton, is that you?

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by locoman88 »

FourScore wrote: post #77
rat9988 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that the idea that the US is more benign than china is shared outside the US or the occidental world.

The US gives more aid around the world than any other country on Earth. The US has been an advocate and global protector of human rights and civil freedoms around the world for over half a century. The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace. The US has given more to the world through its scientific and industrial innovation in the last 50 years than any other nation over the sam…

Jesus!

Somoza, Pinochet, Videla, etc, etc. Those were murdereos military regimes, responsible of countless horrors, and supported, if not directly managed, by the US.

Whenever I read or heard comments like this I always wonder if Hollywood is not an actual CIA offshoot

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by FourScore »

Leary wrote: post #86
FourScore wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US gives more aid around the world than any other country on Earth. The US has been an advocate and global protector of human rights and civil freedoms around the world for over half a century. The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace. The US has given more to the world through its scientific and industrial innovation in the last 50 years than any other nation over the sam…

"The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace." John Bolton, is that you?

The relative loss of life due to war and occurrence of war around the world since 1945 is far lower than at any other point in human history. This is directly due to the US acting as the global superpower.

The Pax Americana is a widely recognized phenomenon.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by FourScore »

whatshisface wrote: post #79
FourScore wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US gives more aid around the world than any other country on Earth. The US has been an advocate and global protector of human rights and civil freedoms around the world for over half a century. The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace. The US has given more to the world through its scientific and industrial innovation in the last 50 years than any other nation over the sam…

> The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace Those two statements directly conflict: Saddam kept things under control a lot better than the violent mess that exists in Iraq now.

Tell that to the Kurds and other persecuted minorities who were tortured and killed en masse by Saddam.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by bduerst »

FourScore wrote: post #88
Leary wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The US has toppled brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and kept the global peace." John Bolton, is that you?

The relative loss of life due to war and occurrence of war around the world since 1945 is far lower than at any other point in human history. This is directly due to the US acting as the global superpower. The Pax Americana is a widely recognized phenomenon.

This "Whatabout WW2 deaths" has little to do with killing 180,000 Iraqi civilians over false information. This type of war mongering justification is what GP is talking about with regards to people outside the U.S. not sharing the opinion that it's benign.
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