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Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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This is extremely annoying for a project I'm working on that involves subdomains. If I set nginx to redirect `example.com` to `www.example.com` I want to verify it in the browser.

You probably should be checking in the console network tab to make sure you are getting the correct HTTP status code (301 vs 302).

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #74

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It seems that Firefox stopped copying http:// (when I want to copy URL) which is very annoying to me. I need the whole address when copying.

Firefox hides the http:// scheme in the address bar, but will include it if you copy the URL. You can test with http://example.com/ and https://example.com/ .

Nice! Though it'd be good if they swapped the scenario where they hide the protocol to be `https` and make `http` the one that sticks out awkwardly.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #81

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Its hostile for power users but it prevents grandpa from renaming 'IMG_144.jpg' to 'Idaho_grandkids', hammering enter on the 'are you sure you want this' nag screen and then wondering what broke his picture.

This was never a problem with classic Mac OS. Files had a type code and a creator code. The type code told application whether they could open the file. The creator code told the Finder which application to open when the file was double-clicked. It was impossible for the user to change either (in the stock OS).

Wait a tic - so the creator code forced the opening program to always be the same for a given file? There way no way to declare a preference that `.csv` files should now be opened with textedit or some such?

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #132

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Firefox hides the http:// scheme in the address bar, but will include it if you copy the URL. You can test with http://example.com/ and https://example.com/ .

Nice! Though it'd be good if they swapped the scenario where they hide the protocol to be `https` and make `http` the one that sticks out awkwardly.

At least for copying nothing should be hidden.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #105
post #81

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Its hostile for power users but it prevents grandpa from renaming 'IMG_144.jpg' to 'Idaho_grandkids', hammering enter on the 'are you sure you want this' nag screen and then wondering what broke his picture.

This was never a problem with classic Mac OS. Files had a type code and a creator code. The type code told application whether they could open the file. The creator code told the Finder which application to open when the file was double-clicked. It was impossible for the user to change either (in the stock OS).

> It was impossible for the user to change either (in the stock OS).

That's... much, much worse than dot extensions.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Google's business model ultimately revoves around deception. They need their assets to not know or care where they really are or who they really are talking to or who is reviewing thier words and movements.

I had to laugh when they started parading thier fake-human avatar "to call and lie to people".

But really, their big value item is language engineering.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #108

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On Macs before 2001, that used to work! We didn't used to cram pieces of file metadata into file names. File type was stored its own slot. The hidden-ness of a file was stored in its own slot. I find it amazing that despite the industry's trend in recent years away from string-typing and towards static-typing, metadata-in-file-name just won't die. I'm all for removing old ways of doing things that were bad, when we h…

Apple used to be the innovator in file metadata. They stopped when Steve came back because proper metadata made it more difficult to share files with Windows and Unix. And we're still stuck with crap metadata to this day.

Given the implementations I've seen of file metadata outside of the extension I'm okay with this - every time OSes (especially windows) tries to strip away the extension it ends up switching the file type from being a description of "what am I" to "what can open me", I really dislike "what can open me" especially when we get into a lot of common office work file formats. Knowing the difference between .rtf, .txt, .doc and .docx is important because of the special attributes of those files - additionally I frequently run into issues with character encoding and that should be an even easier problem to solve so... my outlook is not very optimistic.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #38

This reminds me of how Windows frustratingly hides file extensions by default. This sounds low-upside/high-downside to me, but it's the sort of thing with simple arguments-for (easier for clueless users! Cleaner!), and nuanced arguments-against (eliding rarely-useful details in special cases causes ambiguity, and can lead to confusion is some cases, particularly for clueless users).

Particularly given that “maliciousfile.pdf.exe” gets displayed as “maliciousfile.pdf”

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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post #122
post #37

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Have they though? How many of their users understand what "www" or "https" mean? For those that have a vague idea, how many ever look? I don't like the change either, for a variety of reasons, but I don't think I'm their average user either. For the average user, seeing the domain and nothing else likely improves security.

> seeing the domain and nothing else likely improves security By hiding between 1 to 3 letters? It seems much more secure to do it like Firefox using grey for the unimportant part and black for the important part. If anything, if "m" is hijacked (by a feature actually to use subdomains), it's less secure because now he thinks he is somewhere that he isn't.

It's not always 1-3 characters. google-payments.sbc.net for example. For the third time, I'm not arguing in favor of Google's implementation. What I'm saying is that this has nothing to do with Google being out of touch with users as the GP suggests.
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