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Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by Operyl » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:41 PM UTC

kingo55 wrote: post #7

jvagner wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a pay site. Logging in gives the, a chance to upsell.

How misleading.

I mean, given the entire verbiage around the sites login wall, it seemed plenty obvious here.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by therealmarv » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:43 PM UTC

Essence from this site (from my understanding, read the whole article):

WhatsApp is using VoIP iOS features to display end2end encrypted notifications in iOS. This loophole will be closed on iOS13. So either WhatsApp does not display any notifications text on iOS13 with WhatsApp or WhatsApp will remove end2end encryption for the sake of having notifications with text on iOS.

This is really alarming for privacy. Seems Apple does not care about privacy and comfort unless it's software from Apple.

I just hope WhatsApp will stay strong and never give up on end2end encryption.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by charlesju » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:43 PM UTC

hart_russell wrote: post #2

+1 to Apple's track record for user privacy. I do not regret switching from Android to iOS (even if siri is woefully behind the voice assistant game)

What voice assistant features do you miss? I've never used Android so I'm curious.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by 1f60c » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:44 PM UTC

kingo55 wrote: post #3

What's with the login wall to read the article? Does every random site need my personal information now?

You can use a service like Temp Mail[0]. It worked for me.

[0]: https://temp-mail.org/

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by aylmao » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:46 PM UTC

charlesju wrote: post #13

hart_russell wrote: post #2

+1 to Apple's track record for user privacy. I do not regret switching from Android to iOS (even if siri is woefully behind the voice assistant game)

What voice assistant features do you miss? I've never used Android so I'm curious.

In my experience Google Assistant has better voice recognition and seems to be faster. I've had it recognize things like titles for songs, which are easy to mix up.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by daybreak » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:46 PM UTC

kingo55 wrote: post #3

What's with the login wall to read the article? Does every random site need my personal information now?

Some disposable email sites are blocked on The Information's login wall, even blah@aol.com was rejected (which I found amusing).

But it's easy to think of a random email of letters and numbers, and no further validation is required.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by workingpatrick » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:47 PM UTC

If you don't want to provide your email address I put the article here https://pastebin.com/kKSNFnm8

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by workingpatrick » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:49 PM UTC

1f60c wrote: post #14

kingo55 wrote: post #3

What's with the login wall to read the article? Does every random site need my personal information now?

You can use a service like Temp Mail[0]. It worked for me. [0]: https://temp-mail.org/

I also just typed in a non-existent gmail address and it worked.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by codeulike » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:51 PM UTC

I've noticed something sneaky about Facebook on my phone. I refuse to install their apps but I do use Facebook a bit so I use it via the phone Browser (in my case, Chrome on Android).

I've noticed that sometimes Facebook shows a fake 'youve got a message' icon to try and trick you into installing their messenger app.

To re-produce this behaviour: (this works best if you dont get a lot of facebook messages. Also you need a phone with no facebook apps installed)

- On your desktop PC, use facebook to send a message to someone

- Then switch to your phone, using facebook in the browser

- After about an hour, the little speechbubble message icon at the top will go red, showing you've got a message

- If you click on this from a phone browser, it redirects you to install messenger. (normally, phone-browser facebook doesnt do messenger features)

- Instead of that, switch on 'request desktop site' (not sure what iOS calls this option) to make your phone display the desktop version of facebook. And then you can (usually) read your messages in the browser

- But you will find that there is no new message, and the new message icon will no longer be lit up.

I've had this happen five or six times now - supposedly new messages have arrived but when you look there are none. It always happens about an hour after sending a message. I'm pretty convinced its deliberate behaviour on the phone browser version of facebook to get you to install their messenger app.

Re: Facebook Hit by Apple’s Crackdown on Messaging Feature

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Post by codazoda » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 9:56 PM UTC

kingo55 wrote: post #3

What's with the login wall to read the article? Does every random site need my personal information now?

I wish these types of sites were not allowed on Hacker News. I'm not paying for every little news site I read on here (or the big ones). I usually click on the link, realize it's got this crap on it, and bail back out. I don't want to read it and would rather it didn't even show up.

For a while I had updated my CSS setup so that these sites would have a strike through on them and I'd go strait to the comments instead of trying to read the story.