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China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

anmatapp wrote: post #10

So basically, the big companies own the government in their county.

There has long been suspicion that Huawei is actually owned and controlled by the PLA. Not that it really makes much difference even if that were true (China would protect it even if it were a completely private enterprise).

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by 5trokerac3 »

cdmckay wrote: post #14
_ptgt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? What retaliatory action did the US take on behalf of its tech companies following their blocking in China?

Which companies were blocked by China from operating?

Any foreign company that isn't willing to create a separate Chinese subsidiary with a Communist Party approved CEO at the helm, and who isn't willing to give up all their IP to said Communist Party.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by sempron64 »

cdmckay wrote: post #14
_ptgt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? What retaliatory action did the US take on behalf of its tech companies following their blocking in China?

Which companies were blocked by China from operating?

Google, Facebook, Twitter jump out as examples. These are completely banned from operating due to censorship. Baidu, WeChat, and Weibo are the domestic equivalents, arguably dominant only because of this protectionism. WeChat has outgrown facebook though I think and FB could not win in China now. Corps which sell products in China (as opposed to those who buy manufactured goods that are exported from China) operate only crippled subsidiaries with 51% Chinese ownership for Chinese domestic sales due to their laws.

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by tekkk »

Tit-for-tat. From my scarce knowledge of game-theory and world-politics it is generally accepted as the default move in these types of situations.

But well, if India sees Huawei as security threat, shouldn't they have a quite good justification for blocking them? It's not that they are outright punishing Huawei for just existing, but that there is, in their opinion, a real cause for them to fear Huawei of spying their networks behalf of Chinese government?

Although the real reason would be a lot more nuanced as usual with politics. But to me it seems a bit unfair. Russia and China (and others, sure) have effectively blocked many foreign companies in different sectors in their respective countries because of security reasons, so why India isn't allowed to do the same thing?

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Post by zolosa »

aianus wrote: post #13
AgloeDreams wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like that shiny new battery factory Tesla is building in Shanghai that will produce the number one US market advantage in EV cars?

Would the factory be in Shanghai if it wasn't for Chinese protectionism? Or is that why they built it there?

The factory is in China because that's where the demand is and it's far more cost effective than exporting it from somewhere else.

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Post by yumraj »

There are very few Indian companies operating in China anyway.

India should block Huawei now even more. Just like in the case with US, China has more to lose that India.

Edit: in case there was any confusion, when I said "US" above I was referring to US-China not US-India.

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Post by jrhurst »

tekkk wrote: post #24

Tit-for-tat. From my scarce knowledge of game-theory and world-politics it is generally accepted as the default move in these types of situations. But well, if India sees Huawei as security threat, shouldn't they have a quite good justification for blocking them? It's not that they are outright punishing Huawei for just existing, but that there is, in their opinion, a real cause for them to fear Huawei of spying thei…

Honestly things like phones and their networks should be built and maintained in their home nations

Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked

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Post by schoen »

ycombonator wrote: post #19

华为 'hua-wei' means 'Serve China'

I don't speak Chinese, but it doesn't seem from Wiktionary like 为 has the meaning 'serve' in its sense of 'obey, assist'.

Couldn't it also be something like 'Chinese-doing'? That seems more similar to what Wikipedia says about the name:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei#Name

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