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Re: Finnair Flight 915

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When you're a small country living next to a very powerful one, you learn to mind your manners.

Are you Finnish? I'm not convinced many Fins would love that characterisation.

I'm Canadian and agree that having a Great Power for a neighbor has a profound impact on federal policy, both foreign and domestic.

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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When you're a small country living next to a very powerful one, you learn to mind your manners.

Are you Finnish? I'm not convinced many Fins would love that characterisation.

I’m sure most Finns would agree with that characterization.

It’s certainly not a nation of very thin-skinned people.

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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It's worth noting that Finnair hasn't lost an aircraft since 1963, and are by some measures thus the safest airline out there. They're no minnow either: while not huge in the US, they've made a killing by exploiting their geographical location as the fastest transfer hub between northern Asia and Europe. https://www.finnair.com/hu/gb/home/rakastevagen

"location as the fastest transfer hub"

Not sure what this means. How is Helsinki better suited for this than Moscow to serve AsiaEurope? Aeroflot is one of the most underrated airlines.

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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So that begets the question, why do the Fins allow the Russian to use their planes as target practice by keeping silent?

When you're a small country living next to a very powerful one, you learn to mind your manners.

Or join NATO, which the Baltic states did at the first opportunity. Finland has always refused, although apparently they did think about it in 2007. Ukraine also had the opportunity, didn’t take it, and it didn’t work out so well for them.

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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It's worth noting that Finnair hasn't lost an aircraft since 1963, and are by some measures thus the safest airline out there. They're no minnow either: while not huge in the US, they've made a killing by exploiting their geographical location as the fastest transfer hub between northern Asia and Europe. https://www.finnair.com/hu/gb/home/rakastevagen

I love how "rakastevagen" => "rakaste vägen" is Swedish for "the shortest path", but also sounds a bit Finnish to me, a non-Finnish speaker. Reminiscent of "rakastan", which a Swede would know from "minä rakastan sinua", or "I love you".

Because it's slightly surprising... Despite being neighbors, Swedish and Finnish are only distantly related. Finnish is closer to Hungarian, and Swedish is similar to the other Scandinavian languages and Germanic languages.

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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Very true. A similar incident, also from Finland, was the downing of the passenger plane Kaleva. It was shot down by Soviet warplanes during peacetime. The vague publicly stated reason for the crash was that there was an explosion of foreign origin. The Finnish government knew that the plane was shot down by the Soviets, but chose to withhold this information for foreign policy reasons. The airline's CEO confided the…

So that begets the question, why do the Fins allow the Russian to use their planes as target practice by keeping silent?

Do you actually believe that the Soviets used Finnish airplanes as target practice?

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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post #31

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Are you Finnish? I'm not convinced many Fins would love that characterisation.

I'm Canadian and agree that having a Great Power for a neighbor has a profound impact on federal policy, both foreign and domestic.

Meh... Canadians love to define themselves as "not Americans".

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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post #23

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When you're a small country living next to a very powerful one, you learn to mind your manners.

Are you Finnish? I'm not convinced many Fins would love that characterisation.

Not Finnish. But Finland has fought two wars with the Russians in the last century, and without a protective alliance, really is at Russia's mercy. Look at what happened to Georgia.

I'm a realpolitik guy, so I don't often mince my words.

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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post #23

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When you're a small country living next to a very powerful one, you learn to mind your manners.

Or join NATO, which the Baltic states did at the first opportunity. Finland has always refused, although apparently they did think about it in 2007. Ukraine also had the opportunity, didn’t take it, and it didn’t work out so well for them.

When in your opinion did Ukraine have the opportunity to join NATO? Can you reference a short passage somewhere that says as much?

Re: Finnair Flight 915

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I'm Canadian and agree that having a Great Power for a neighbor has a profound impact on federal policy, both foreign and domestic.

Meh... Canadians love to define themselves as "not Americans".

is that supposed to refute in any way that the parent said ? I'm canadian and he's right... we are not sovereign at all.
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