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AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

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Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

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Post by qwsxyh »

jdblair wrote: post #27
jzunit wrote: post #8

His methods were illegal but can we please recognize this guy for being an ABSOLUTE HERO for unlocking all those phones and giving the people what they wanted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

The contract sucks shit that's why

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

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Post by _bxg1 »

gear54rus wrote: post #28
_bxg1 wrote: post #23

Wait... what? The "malware" just unlocked the phones' carrier locks? Was it the phones' owners who were paying him to unlock them from AT&T? Why is an illegal scheme even necessary for doing that? I'm quite confused.

Why is illegal scheme necessary to create derivative works of Mickey mouse? Because this world, while being peaceful, is overrun with hostile actors at every corner.

No, I mean, you can literally ask AT&T and they'll unlock your phone. Or if this was before that was possible, you could still just root it yourself. I don't see why the network or its employees had to be involved at all.

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

#33

Post by mikeash »

jdblair wrote: post #27
jzunit wrote: post #8

His methods were illegal but can we please recognize this guy for being an ABSOLUTE HERO for unlocking all those phones and giving the people what they wanted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

Does the contract actually say you’re not allowed to unlock the phone? Or does it just say that you have to pay an ETF if you cancel early?

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

#34

Post by nordsieck »

qwsxyh wrote: post #31
jdblair wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

The contract sucks shit that's why

> The contract sucks shit that's why

All those people were free to buy unsubsidized phones elsewhere. They knew exactly what they were getting into when they signed up.

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

#35

Post by isostatic »

qwsxyh wrote: post #31
jdblair wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

The contract sucks shit that's why

So don't sign it.

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

#38

Post by mieseratte »

qwsxyh wrote: post #31
jdblair wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

The contract sucks shit that's why

Then buy an unlocked phone.

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

#39

Post by jdblair »

mikeash wrote: post #33
jdblair wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

Does the contract actually say you’re not allowed to unlock the phone? Or does it just say that you have to pay an ETF if you cancel early?

I don't remember the exact wording, but the last time I had a subsidized phone (with T-Mobile) it was made clear to me that the phone could be unlocked after a period of time. The period was shorter than the contract period. T-Mobile even unlocked the phone for me before that time was expired when I explained that I was traveling to Europe and wanted to swap the SIM when abroad.

Re: AT&T employees were bribed to install phone unlocking malware on company network

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Post by rasz »

jdblair wrote: post #27
jzunit wrote: post #8

His methods were illegal but can we please recognize this guy for being an ABSOLUTE HERO for unlocking all those phones and giving the people what they wanted.

A contract was violated when these phones were unlocked. In return for a locked phone the buyer received a subsidy from AT&T on the cost of the hardware. I don't want people to violate contracts with me, why should I recognize someone as a hero just because I don't like the contract? To be absolutely clear, I don't like locked phones, either, so I always buy non-carrier-locked devices and it means I pay the full, uns…

Subsidy is when someone gives you money, cellphone contract is when you agree to pay back the $1000 handset in 12-24 hidden installments.
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