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Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by benbristow »

huntermeyer wrote: post #25
mr_puzzled wrote: post #7

Off topic : there seems to be a disconnect between the chrome devs and users. Another instance was the automatic signing in to chrome incident. I've lost trust in the chrome team and have switched to Firefox full time and honestly there's nothing that I miss. The firefox devs seem to better understand their users, frequently blog about changes that positively impact users. I have a lot more faith in firefox even thou…

Brave ( https://brave.com/download/ ) is a good alternative too. It doesn't have the terrible UX (IMHO) that Firefox has. But it is built with Chromium (TMK).

Had issues using Brave.

Tried to pay off my contract & upgrade my phone on O2 UK's (mobile network operator) website.

Card transactions failed multiple times because of a blocked popup.

Ended up having to wait a week for the pending transactions to be released (£600 worth. Rang up Monzo, my bank, and they'd tell me I'd get the money released in pending state the next week which was true!).

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by josteink »

notatoad wrote: post #33
josteink wrote: post #10

Google wants nobody to know URLs exist, and that everyone is forced to search Google for everything, even sites they know, and there visit fake AMP-sites portraying to be from a server they are not, all while Google tracks every single keystroke you make. This is just another tiny step in that overall plan, and it is 100% evil. Don’t waste your time trying to talk the Chrome-team into reason. You are not their custom…

>iPhones yeah, if you don't like this change switch to a browser that has behaved this way for years

It doesn’t hide www. And you can install alternate browsers on iPhones, you know.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by RandomInteger4 »

This is so pointless. Why? To make the URLs prettier for the average user who they assume is too stupid to function or something?

Meanwhile most URLs around the web have UUIDs or other garbage appended to the end for the sake of tracking, which I doubt they intend to do anything about any time soon, so what even is the point of hiding the protocol and a single subdomain? Just leave the URL alone.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by josteink »

joshuamorton wrote: post #32
josteink wrote: post #10

Google wants nobody to know URLs exist, and that everyone is forced to search Google for everything, even sites they know, and there visit fake AMP-sites portraying to be from a server they are not, all while Google tracks every single keystroke you make. This is just another tiny step in that overall plan, and it is 100% evil. Don’t waste your time trying to talk the Chrome-team into reason. You are not their custom…

Firefox and Safari already made similar changes. Safari made the exact same change, and Firefox hides http:// already, but not https:// , chrome is just using a lock icon to represent the https:// instead of the actual string.

Firefox doesn’t hide the WWW subdomain. The domain-name remains unmangled.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by zrobotics »

zzo38computer wrote: post #43
jdashg wrote: post #38

This reminds me of how Windows frustratingly hides file extensions by default. This sounds low-upside/high-downside to me, but it's the sort of thing with simple arguments-for (easier for clueless users! Cleaner!), and nuanced arguments-against (eliding rarely-useful details in special cases causes ambiguity, and can lead to confusion is some cases, particularly for clueless users).

And, there is a setting to tell it to not do that, but even then, for some files it is hidden anyways. But, it is possible to use regedit to change it so that the extensions are not hidden even for those cases.

On windows? I've never experienced/noticed this, what extensions are still hidden? Hidden files is a separate setting from hiding extensions (which is good), but I've never noticed a file that wouldn't display the extension after changing the setting. I can't remember specifically for any of the earlier versions, but this has been my experience on 7 & 10.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by adrianmonk »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #5

Google must really hate URLs. My search results recently stopped showing the full path of the URL, just the domain name. It was a huge pain because I was looking for an item at Ikea and couldn't tell if a result went to their American site or to their UK, Saudi Arabian, Qatari, etc. site (apparently the same item can have small differences in different countries— I almost bought the wrong lightbulbs because the UK ve…

> Google must really hate URLs.

Honestly, I suspect the motivation is either the Chrome team is too big and people are bored and looking for changes to make, or someone is angling for a promotion and wants to make a very visible change so they can show "impact" when they put together their promotion packet.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by kevin_b_er »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #5

Google must really hate URLs. My search results recently stopped showing the full path of the URL, just the domain name. It was a huge pain because I was looking for an item at Ikea and couldn't tell if a result went to their American site or to their UK, Saudi Arabian, Qatari, etc. site (apparently the same item can have small differences in different countries— I almost bought the wrong lightbulbs because the UK ve…

Google would rather you use Google to search for what you want and not use a URL. They want the uniform resource locator to be "Search on Google".

We've seen their influence on Chrome in the past by their devs lying about performance as justification for crippling adblocking in extensions.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by aaomidi »

y_molodtsov wrote: post #50
_o-O-o_ wrote: post #28

What a slippery slope. I imagine a future when the entire URL itself has disappeared and we live in some sort of Google-controlled walled garden environment, like what they're trying to do with AMP[0]. Some sites only work with WWW prefixed as the APEX DNS record is misconfigured and points to nothing. I've even seen some sites point to `0.0.0.0' but had a CNAME record for WWW and I could then view the site. [0] http…

Then these websites are broken and needs to be fixed. In the end, the most of the people would probably search for it in the first place.

This is a stupid argument. Subdomains are part of the standard of the web. They shouldn't be hidden.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by twodayslate »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #59
mholt wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finder on macOS does this too. It's maddening... There was an article recently about "hostile architecture" and this is similarly a "hostile software design" to prevent users from doing something the developers don't want them to do.

And requires you to jump through non-obvious hoops to make "hidden" files and folders visible.

Command + Shift + Period to show hidden files. To show extensions you can enable the setting in Finder's preferences under Advanced.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by pjc50 »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #67
Rebelgecko wrote: post #5

Google must really hate URLs. My search results recently stopped showing the full path of the URL, just the domain name. It was a huge pain because I was looking for an item at Ikea and couldn't tell if a result went to their American site or to their UK, Saudi Arabian, Qatari, etc. site (apparently the same item can have small differences in different countries— I almost bought the wrong lightbulbs because the UK ve…

Google would rather you use Google to search for what you want and not use a URL. They want the uniform resource locator to be "Search on Google". We've seen their influence on Chrome in the past by their devs lying about performance as justification for crippling adblocking in extensions.

Ah, the AOL keyword model.
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