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Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by tedivm »

mr_puzzled wrote: post #7

Off topic : there seems to be a disconnect between the chrome devs and users. Another instance was the automatic signing in to chrome incident. I've lost trust in the chrome team and have switched to Firefox full time and honestly there's nothing that I miss. The firefox devs seem to better understand their users, frequently blog about changes that positively impact users. I have a lot more faith in firefox even thou…

I think the chrome team just considers its users to be your average corporate america employee, and no longer considers developers or tech literate people to be their main market.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by privateSFacct »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #5

Google must really hate URLs. My search results recently stopped showing the full path of the URL, just the domain name. It was a huge pain because I was looking for an item at Ikea and couldn't tell if a result went to their American site or to their UK, Saudi Arabian, Qatari, etc. site (apparently the same item can have small differences in different countries— I almost bought the wrong lightbulbs because the UK ve…

Google sees folks falling for google-secure-payments.google.via.net type URLS. They see all the gaming people do with URLs in search results (including abusing the names of other brands like Amazon).

There are lots of developers who like distinguishing these subtle topics. I can tell you in a larger enterprise deployment most of these changes will be welcomed (yes, people do still click on bogus URLs believe it or not - FAR more often than I would expect). Or think that the url amazon.lowprice.com is an amazon website in a search result.

Folks claiming google is hiding the owner of the website forget that the actual owner of the website is reflected by the END of the domain name, not the earlier parts. In some shared hosting situations this is confusing, but in the end whoever controls the end actually is in control.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by type0 »

josteink wrote: post #10

Google wants nobody to know URLs exist, and that everyone is forced to search Google for everything, even sites they know, and there visit fake AMP-sites portraying to be from a server they are not, all while Google tracks every single keystroke you make. This is just another tiny step in that overall plan, and it is 100% evil. Don’t waste your time trying to talk the Chrome-team into reason. You are not their custom…

General population already thinks that the Web has been taken over by Google and that "social media" is Facebook and Twitter.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by dlandis »

It's just so bizarre how strongly the Google product people continue to insist that this change is beneficial to users when so many users themselves simultaneously insist that it's not. Combined with the fact that their explanation is dubious at best (i.e. www is not a technically a "special case"), I find it very hard to believe they do not have additional, confidential reasoning for making this change.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by huntermeyer »

mr_puzzled wrote: post #7

Off topic : there seems to be a disconnect between the chrome devs and users. Another instance was the automatic signing in to chrome incident. I've lost trust in the chrome team and have switched to Firefox full time and honestly there's nothing that I miss. The firefox devs seem to better understand their users, frequently blog about changes that positively impact users. I have a lot more faith in firefox even thou…

Brave (https://brave.com/download/) is a good alternative too. It doesn't have the terrible UX (IMHO) that Firefox has. But it is built with Chromium (TMK).

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by reaperducer »

privateSFacct wrote: post #18
_8j50 wrote: post #6

URLs represent and identify content,controling them means you control content. In the short term these changes mean little but in the long term this will benefit google immensely. Google just loves slippery slopes. Identity and payment are extremely important to any ordered system of social interaction. More than content itself,controlling them helps one control everything else. I am trying hard to avoid believing co…

The focus of this change is to improve the identification of content. This coupled with payment has been subject lots of fraud where users misled about the owner of a website. google-payments-secure.via.net is not a google payment website despite the google in the domain name. The key part that signifies the ownership / identify of the person hosting the site is the END of the domain, the google.com part. That is the…

Or Google can stop cramming things in the top of the window and let us see the entire URL.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by type0 »

cpeterso wrote: post #16
pmccarren wrote: post #8

I'm certainly not a fan of the new URI scheme, but it is worth pointing out that Safari has already made the same change. Furthermore I'm not convinced said change is a net-negative for the average consumer. Safari added the setting "Show full website address", which does just that. I wouldn't have a problem if Chrome followed suit and defaulted to the new scheme, but gave us the option to show the full URI.

Safari only shows the domain name. Chrome still shows both the domain name (minus "www.") and URL path.

Allright, now we know what's coming...

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by _o-O-o_ »

What a slippery slope. I imagine a future when the entire URL itself has disappeared and we live in some sort of Google-controlled walled garden environment, like what they're trying to do with AMP[0]. Some sites only work with WWW prefixed as the APEX DNS record is misconfigured and points to nothing. I've even seen some sites point to `0.0.0.0' but had a CNAME record for WWW and I could then view the site.

[0] https://developers.google.com/amp/

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by notatoad »

RandomGuyDTB wrote: post #14

This is great and all until you (like me) need to be able to differentiate www.example.com from example.com and https:// example.com versus http:// example.com. My website doesn't forward example.com to www.example.com (due to errors on my part that I don't know how to fix, my email is in my profile and if you can help I'd greatly appreciate it). I don't know if there are any scenarios in which a properly-configured…

>need to be able to differentiate ... https:// example.com versus http:// example.com

this requirement is handled by the "not secure" badging, which is much more obvious that requiring users to pick out the "s" in the middle of a string.

https://security.googleblog.com/2016/09/moving-towards-more-...

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by joshuamorton »

type0 wrote: post #12

If I have one webpage with different languages and want my visitors recognize it from url, what are the options? Previously I could have www.example.com/en/ and www.example.com/fr/ etc If subdomains are not possible there's no hope that visitors using Chrome would see it?

Unless I'm grossly misunderstanding, those would still show up as `example.com/fr/` and `example.com/en/`.

Heck, if you use `fr.example.com` and `en.example.com`, those would also work.

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