Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

anandtech.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 97 posts

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#11

Post by matthewmacleod »

shawnz wrote: post #9
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please correct me if I’m wrong but no RaspPi has a PCIe interface, yet. From the embedded side of things, I would expect that to be a whole Pi generation out. Even then, I’m honestly not sure what the use case is, the Pi is doing amazing things with SPI and USB.

The RPi 4 uses PCIe to interface with the USB 3 controller. However it doesn't provide an external interface for it.

You can, of course, hack your own together :)

http://mloduchowski.com/en/blog/raspberry-pi-4-b-pci-express...

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#12

Post by tracker1 »

Definitely nice for SFF... but I don't think that higher performing devices will be able to dissipate enough heat from the lid alone. Most PCIe gen 4 SSDs have relatively large heat spreaders because of the load.

Similarly, I keep thinking it would be cool to have a GPU socket format that could sit adjacent to the CPU so that a large heat pipe / cooler could be attached to both.

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#14

Post by umvi »

cosmotic wrote: post #13

The angle of insertion seems like a total deal breaker for any sort of embedded device.

I mean, you could create a different housing for an embedded device like a cell phone that receives the same card.

I remember when SIM cards used to go in at an angle and flip down like in the diagram, but now all the housings are just slide-in with spring loaded contacts.

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#16

Post by rhinoceraptor »

sdlion wrote: post #15

I worry about the spring force of those pins after so many extreme temperature changes. Or AMD spring connectors design are similar to these? EDIT: I meant "Intel spring pin connectors"

It seems like it's basically like CPU socket spring pins, which I would assume have much higher thermal loading.

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#18

Post by gambiting »

djsumdog wrote: post #2

Wonder if we'll see these on the Raspberry Pi 5 and other embedded boards? This is pretty amazing; much better than the current eMMC and SDCard based storage solutions on a lot of dev boards.

RockPi has a full size M.2 connector that accepts most NVMe drives:

http://rockpi.org/

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#19

Post by jandrese »

umvi wrote: post #14
cosmotic wrote: post #13

The angle of insertion seems like a total deal breaker for any sort of embedded device.

I mean, you could create a different housing for an embedded device like a cell phone that receives the same card. I remember when SIM cards used to go in at an angle and flip down like in the diagram, but now all the housings are just slide-in with spring loaded contacts.

Back when cell phones had removable batteries you'd just put a connector like this under the battery. These days it seems like a fairly major oversight. Maybe someone will figure out a slide in socket that will be compatible? Depends on how the pins are arranged on the memory card. It might be tricky to pull off depending on the pinout of the card.

Re: Toshiba Introduces New Tiny NVMe SSD Form Factor

#20

Post by trilila »

gambiting wrote: post #17

How is this an "innovative connector design"? This is exactly how sim card slots worked on many old Nokias, the mechanism is literally identical.

Innovation doesn't equal inventing new stuff. I think it is quite innovative how they use an old mechanism for a new use case.
Post reply on HN